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Topic Started: Aug 7 2014, 09:16 PM (1,949 Views)
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Also, I think any conflict that happens in the Future wouldn't be a massive nuclear war like some believe it to be. In the coming decades, we are likely to see more conflicts like the ones in Iraq, Gaza-Israel, Syria, Ukraine, Nigeria, and other countries but none of them will be deadly enough to usher the world into global war.

A full-scale war would only happen for resources like Water IMO.
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I'd hope not, not anytime soon. You know what we really need, a completely neutral, non-UN non affiliated entity with policing power for this sort of thing.
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Nah it would become corrupted.


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Aug 7 2014, 09:32 PM
Exactly man, no one's dumb enough to do that. Yeahh, thats true about the Mid East nations, not only Iraq but each country in the Mid East is looking for their own, none of them are doing anything about whats going on Gaza cuz they scared of Israel. I could be mistaken thoo.

I honestly don't really follow politics much, so my bad if i'm wrong about anything.
Actually those traitors in the mid east help Israel to destroy Gaza , they're a bunch of sell outs who only cares about themselves and money even if it means killing their own brothers ( Gaza ) .

Free Palestine .
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Exactly man, no one's dumb enough to do that. Yeahh, thats true about the Mid East nations, not only Iraq but each country in the Mid East is looking for their own, none of them are doing anything about whats going on Gaza cuz they scared of Israel. I could be mistaken thoo.

I honestly don't really follow politics much, so my bad if i'm wrong about anything.
Actually those traitors in the mid east help Israel to destroy Gaza , they're a bunch of sell outs who only cares about themselves and money even if it means killing their own brothers ( Gaza ) .

Free Palestine .
I would love to have a source about this.

As far as I know the U.S. is the only country supporting Israel and even they are reconsidering at the moment
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Exactly man, no one's dumb enough to do that. Yeahh, thats true about the Mid East nations, not only Iraq but each country in the Mid East is looking for their own, none of them are doing anything about whats going on Gaza cuz they scared of Israel. I could be mistaken thoo.

I honestly don't really follow politics much, so my bad if i'm wrong about anything.
Actually those traitors in the mid east help Israel to destroy Gaza , they're a bunch of sell outs who only cares about themselves and money even if it means killing their own brothers ( Gaza ) .

Free Palestine .
I would love to have a source about this.

As far as I know the U.S. is the only country supporting Israel and even they are reconsidering at the moment
a jewish soldier tweeted not too long ago that mid east arabs help Israel they give them weapons and all what they need in war and he also mentionned that if those traitors stoped doing this the war would've stopped a long ago and it's pretty much a fact , Qatar hates Gaza , Egypt with their new president El Sissi helps Israel , UAE also helps Israel , the only man that actually stood up to Israel was Sadam Hussein and before he died he said that he fired 49 missels at Israel and he dares the arabs leaders to make it 50 .
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Aug 9 2014, 03:58 PM
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Aug 9 2014, 02:07 PM
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Aug 7 2014, 09:32 PM
Exactly man, no one's dumb enough to do that. Yeahh, thats true about the Mid East nations, not only Iraq but each country in the Mid East is looking for their own, none of them are doing anything about whats going on Gaza cuz they scared of Israel. I could be mistaken thoo.

I honestly don't really follow politics much, so my bad if i'm wrong about anything.
Actually those traitors in the mid east help Israel to destroy Gaza , they're a bunch of sell outs who only cares about themselves and money even if it means killing their own brothers ( Gaza ) .

Free Palestine .
I would love to have a source about this.

As far as I know the U.S. is the only country supporting Israel and even they are reconsidering at the moment
a jewish soldier tweeted not too long ago that mid east arabs help Israel they give them weapons and all what they need in war and he also mentionned that if those traitors stoped doing this the war would've stopped a long ago and it's pretty much a fact , Qatar hates Gaza , Egypt with their new president El Sissi helps Israel , UAE also helps Israel , the only man that actually stood up to Israel was Sadam Hussein and before he died he said that he fired 49 missels at Israel and he dares the arabs leaders to make it 50 .
I asked for a source, not a hypothesis on what middle eastern countries might be doing
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I used to be really pro-Palestine at one point of my life but then I came to realize that their wasn't really any "good" country between the two of them. Supporting either Palestine or Israel requires a certain amount of bias and ignoring things to suit one's opinion.

My 2 cents.
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That's absolutely right. The Palestinians fire missiles at Israel's border. Israel then retaliates and the whole thing goes round and round. I think it's very sad but I think the only way for this to stop is for one side to be wiped out. I don't want that to happen but it doesn't look as though there's any other way. Unless both sides stop being aggressive all of a sudden.


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Or both sides come out and admit that their equally at fault for what they've done to each other. Something like that even though it's not going to happen.

Kinda pathetic to see that their still at each others throats even after 70+ Years.
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For really stupid reasons too.


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True, this is more of a geopolitical conflict more so than a religious conflict that some people make it out to be.

Technically speaking though, the Arabs are to blame for starting the conflict by attempting to invade Israel shortly after it's UN creation though their not exempt from blame.

In a nutshell, Palestine's extreme-right wing group Hamas fires rockets into Israel from Gaza, terrorizing it's citizens while Israel issues blockades on Gaza, depriving it's citizens food and stuff. Sounds to me like theirs no good guy in all of this. Might as well just stop throwing foreign aid to both of these countries or even better, stay away from this conflict and not take sides.
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People always ask Who's right in Israel-Palestine.
In reality, both porties are wrong.
It's like saying: who do you think is good? The KKK or Boko Haram?

As for my solution?

I agree with Pelador, one side will probably have to be wiped out for violence to stop completely.
But for a less dark solution. Here's how I see it.
Israel wants a genocide of Palestinians. (They don't say it, but it's evident that this is their ultimate goal.)
Hamas wants to have West Bank, Gaza, and all of Israel and wants all jews to leave the area that was before 1945 known as Palestine.
The problem with Israels demands is that they are way too violent, they go against human rights and they're just plain awe full. I don't need to explain why those demands are wrong.
As for Hamas, you can't send home all of the Israeli's. Sure, the west was wrong to give the area to the jews but what's done is done and you can't get rid of them now, just like a Cherokee native American can't force every non-native American to leave North America and go back to Europe, that's absurd.

So what do we do?
Go back to the original borders.
Palestine has the West Bank, Jerusalem, The Entire Gaza Strip and Acre.
Basically the borders that were agreed upon in the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

These were the original borders. The area is divided pretty much 50-50 and simply, this is what the UN ordered.

Now for two questions of criticism to my idea, and my answers to them:
1. What happens to all the Israeli's living in what is currently knows as Israel but according to the plan is knows as Palestine?
Well, hate to say it but those Jews have to move. They shouldn't be there in the first place. The UN gave them a huge piece of land in Palestine and they should've sticked to it. All Jews crossing that line are in the wrong, there's no excuse for it and they should move back.
2. Is this going to end violence?
No, definitely not, these two nations will always fight, but I do think it will be heavily reduced. Israel is strictly permitted to move their borders any further and the UN offers them technology to counter any missiles fired from Palestinian areas.

That's just my idea on it, but then again, I'm just some random guy on the internet and there are probably a lot of flaws to the idea I don't know about
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The only problem with that is anything like that would be veto'd by the US if it made it to the UN. Their just thick-headed like that when it comes to the issue.

It's also kinda hypocritical as well seeing as the US gets angry when Russia or China veto's them from doing anything in Syria.
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Aug 9 2014, 05:37 PM
The only problem with that is anything like that would be veto'd by the US if it made it to the UN. Their just thick-headed like that when it comes to the issue.

It's also kinda hypocritical as well seeing as the US gets angry when Russia or China veto's them from doing anything in Syria.
Oh yeah, my plan will never happen.
Every plan in favor of Israel gets veto'd by Russia/China.
Every plan in favor of Palestine gets veto'd by U.S.A.
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