Why the Abridged Hate?

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Why the Abridged Hate?
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 6 2014, 01:18 AM (3,725 Views)
TheACE	Aug 6 2014, 01:18 AM Post #1
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	So I wasn't really sure where this went, whether it was in a Z or GT/Movie thread, or if it belonged here. Fan Works seemed a bit less risky. I'm trying to figure something out with the fanbase: Why all the TFS hate? I mean, abridging is a thing. It's parody, we get lots of parodies, they happen and usually are just there to lampoon the silly things about awesome stuff. And they're pretty funny. Space Balls, very funny. Does that make Star Wars less amazing? Of course not, have you PLAYED the Force Unleashed? Starkiller for Episode 7 please. Robin Hood, men in tights? Better than I'd say 75% of the Robin Hood adaptations. Scary Movie? Actually made Scream watchable. A Haunted House? Meh, but still better than the source material, and has some fun with the dumb idea. What really gets me is that almost anyone I talk to that likes either the card game, the manga or the anime Yugioh just loves the abridged series. I figured the same would be for DBZ, but you get a lot of people that either love it or hate it. And the hate runs deep, they hate how the characters are portrayed and think of it as a very venomous attempt to derail the franchise. And I don't see it. There are a few comparisons drawn and they do exaggerate the tone of some characters (Chi-Chi's general Bcthiness, Krillin's fear, Piccolo's fusion's are just great, etc.) but they really do show some attention to detail that proves that Lani, Vegeta, Masako and even Little Kuriboh himself just love the show. Now I get that Yugioh is a bit more of a ridiculous concept (Ancient Eygptian Soul Stealing Card Games? Really?) but in fairness a bunch of alien were monkeys flying around planets and shooting lasers in a battle to get seven magic rocks that summon an inter-dimensional mythical reptile genie... I mean how seriously do you expect anyone to take that? If you told someone that's what Dragon Ball was, not only would that be a correct assessment, they would be like "Who the Fck green lights that?" I guess it seems to get the worst of it since it has more exposure than perhaps the Avatar Abridged Series of the Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged series (Both of which are sadly debunked.) And no body's taken Pokemon seriously since 2002, so abridging it apparently wasn't a big deal either. But I still don't get it! Are we so proud as a fan base that Dragon Ball Z is untouchable? Z itself is a master piece? (Because evidently no one gives a kark about Dragon Ball and everyone hates GT for the same reasons they love the Buu Saga, which is a whole 'nother rant actually.) But really? What has Team Four Star done to your precious show? It's a thirty year old japanese super hero show! Yes it's a classic, but so is Spider-man, so is The Transformers, so is Star Wars, so is Superman so is Batman, so on and so fourth and they are soooooooooo not above reproach and are far from flawless. Though I'd almost argue that Spider-man is the least flawed, but again that's another rant. Phew So, with that out of the way... Why do you hate TFS' Dragon Ball Z Abridged (If at all?)
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lucrowe	Aug 6 2014, 01:21 AM Post #2
Posts: 1,149 Group: Member Member #11,578 Joined: August 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Gantz What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Not much of a fan..	I didn't even know it was a thing to hate Abridged... I think it's classic!
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+ Clearin	Aug 6 2014, 01:29 AM Post #3
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	DBZ abridged is possibly the most abridged series out there except maybe Yu-gi-oh. I actually never see it get any hate but then again I don't go looking for it. People here seem to like it, though the thread for it isn't very active, and their videos always have a massive number of likes compared to dislikes. When they post a new ep link on FB it gains hundreds of likes within seconds. It's mostly the gaming stuff people will complain about because they feel like it cuts into their DBZ abridged time, which TFS have repeated multiple times that it doesn't.



Rogafufuken	Aug 6 2014, 01:40 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #10,933 Joined: February 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z/Kai, and Nisekoi What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z, and One Piece	Some people are just prideful. Some people just have the mindset that "DBZ is a flawless series, and it's so badass all the time, and so awesome, everyone's such a badass, and it's all super serious, Dragon Ball isn't like that so I don't like it. DBZ IS SO BADASS AND AWESOME ZOMG!" Hardcore Bruce Faulconer fans, don't look at this, or prepare to possibly be offened. WARNING This is kind of how I see the people who thing that every Bruce Faulconer song fits every moment perfectly, and that the other soundtracks are inferior, or people kind oflike that. Just Saiyan. Basically, they can't take DBZ not only being super comedy oriented, though also called on on some of it's flaws and weirdness to an extent. Or there's people who just don't find it funny ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited by Rogafufuken, Aug 6 2014, 01:41 AM.



+ Yusuke	Aug 6 2014, 01:42 AM Post #5
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Theirs hardly any hate for TFS from what i've seen.
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EMIYA	Aug 6 2014, 02:03 AM Post #6
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The Abridged series gets hate? Mind you I'm sure someone's going to dislike something regardless of what it is. But its gotten to the point where I think people remember and recognize the abridged series more than they do the original source itself. Edited by EMIYA, Aug 6 2014, 02:08 AM.



TheGmGoken	Aug 6 2014, 02:10 AM Post #7
Posts: 1,995 Group: Member Member #10,673 Joined: January 4, 2014 Gender Male	I don't hate TFS. I don't find it that funny after Ginyu Force. But I don't see hate for it. However I do get annoyed when I see TFS comments on my Amvs. We get it you've watch an episode of TFS that included this scene. Sometimes I think people buy or watch a scene in the show just to make TFS comments.



+ Ginyu	Aug 6 2014, 06:57 AM Post #8
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	TheGmGoken Aug 6 2014, 02:10 AM I don't hate TFS. I don't find it that funny after Ginyu Force. But I don't see hate for it. However I do get annoyed when I see TFS comments on my Amvs. We get it you've watch an episode of TFS that included this scene. Sometimes I think people buy or watch a scene in the show just to make TFS comments. Haha, you kidding me? The Ginyu Force is where it finally starts to get funny
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The-Senzu-Life	Aug 6 2014, 07:02 AM Post #9
Posts: 38 Group: Member Member #11,531 Joined: July 19, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Kimi Ga Nozumo Eien, Ouran Highschool Hostclub What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I love the Dragon Ball Z Abridged series, it's much better than every other Dragon Ball parody out there. The others are usually disturbing for some odd reason. . . The only thing I really hate about it is the whole Krillin owned count thing, as stupid as this sounds I really don't like seeing Krillin be the loser of the show.
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Tim	Aug 6 2014, 07:22 AM Post #10
Forum Royalty Posts: 7,535 Group: Prince Member #4,562 Joined: November 1, 2009 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Hunter x Hunter	I'm with everyone else on this. I've not really seen any hate for their work haha.



TheGmGoken	Aug 6 2014, 08:35 AM Post #11
Posts: 1,995 Group: Member Member #10,673 Joined: January 4, 2014 Gender Male	GinyuTokusentai Aug 6 2014, 06:57 AM TheGmGoken Aug 6 2014, 02:10 AM I don't hate TFS. I don't find it that funny after Ginyu Force. But I don't see hate for it. However I do get annoyed when I see TFS comments on my Amvs. We get it you've watch an episode of TFS that included this scene. Sometimes I think people buy or watch a scene in the show just to make TFS comments. Haha, you kidding me? The Ginyu Force is where it finally starts to get funny I didn't say the Ginyu Force wasn't funny. I said after the ginyu force it stopped being funny.



Sky	Aug 6 2014, 10:46 AM Post #12
One Special Nerd Posts: 1,703 Group: Member Member #8,754 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Female	I have only come across a few people who haven't liked it.. But by the sound of it, is there actually a lot of hate for TFS? Have I been oblivious to the hate or..?
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Sjk8	Aug 6 2014, 11:34 AM Post #13
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	To me it is simply just better, way better than the original anime, and not only for the humor mind you: indeed I find it hilarious to say the least that TFS characters' personality is much better developed than the original anime ones', not to talk about the ability of voice actors (I find them to be much better than the original voice actors) and the quality of the whole crew who works behind every single scene. TFS Abridged is not just a stupid parody like every other crap around which distorts the original meaning and plot of DBZ, contrariwise it follows strictly the plot, doesn't miss any important detail and it enhances the overall quality of the show compared to the original anime, making also fantastic explanations of DBZ flaws, like when a Z fighter stands still and wait his opponent to transform (see Piccolo vs 3rd form Freeza) or when Krillin never uses his Kienzan. The only thing I think someone could complain about is that the fights are shortened compared to the orginal anime, but I can get over it, since otherwise it wouldn't be an Abridged series, as its name says. If I'd want to take things super seriously (like in debates, even if I don't care debating about DB anymore), there's always the manga, otherwise, to me, only TFS Abridged exists.
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Big Daddy	Aug 7 2014, 07:36 AM Post #14
Posts: 29 Group: Member Member #10,612 Joined: December 22, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I haven't really seen much hate for it, either. I think it's pretty funny personally. The hate I do see is the kind of people who probably take things too seriously/can't take a joke. I see a lot of those in the DB-Community.



tOMMY pICKLES	Aug 7 2014, 12:50 PM Post #15
Yare Yare Daze Posts: 3,780 Group: Humanoid Typhoon Member #8,557 Joined: November 13, 2012 Gender Other Country Canada Favourite Anime Cowbow Bebop. Trigun. Samurai Champloo. JJBA. FMA:B. What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk, JJBA	Im one of the people who hates the dbz abridged, to be honest... its just not funny, like at all, just seems so childish and forced to me. I really wanna like it but I just cant.



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