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Ultra SSJ4 Goku and Omega Shenron
Topic Started: Aug 5 2014, 10:54 PM (1,586 Views)
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Omega was placed in the same category as USSJ4 Goku by Gohan, saying their so close.

The fight didn't seem as TOO one sided, Goku gets some hits in but they don't bother Omega. Omega uses some of the Shadow Dragons abilities but they don't hurt Goku much easily shrugging the pain. Goku coughs some blood due to a punch in the gut, but Omega is in pain and obliterated by Goku.

Since using the Dragon Fist, Goku's Ki dropped, Omega survives since he used Rage's regeneration and even admitted that the attack was fearsome.

I'm thinking a 1.8-2x gap.
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Ultra Super Saiyan Four, what is that? Is that like a Super Buff version?
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It's what Goku called it after powering up to confront Syn.
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You think he was that much stronger then? Hmmm, even Frieza said that Goku's Spirit Bomb hurt when he got hit by it, but that couldn't have been much more than 50 - 75% of Frieza's max power. Or when Goku hit Cell with the Warp Kamehameha. Goku is very offensive and has a pretty hard edge while attacking. He's a known piercer, so I think it's reasonable to assume that the Super Dragon Fist's properties are what did it, much like Krillin's destructo disk. I'd probably say maybe a 30% edge for the split second but that's it.
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I didn't think of it like that, but Goku was brushing off Omega's combos for the most part.
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Not gonna lie, the only reason I even thought of it was because Base Goku managed to punch through Super 17, who whipped Super Saiyan 4 Goku like he was a chi... hmmm, could have phrased that better. Of course, again, Atsushi Maekawa kinda wrote himself into a corner on how to get rid of the guy that beat the hell out of EVERYONE and absorbed EVERYONE'S energy. Because really, was there a reason he had to absorb 18's blasts and not just punch through with another Electric Hell Sphere?
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If Omega survived his DF, how the hell is this SSJ4 Goku even near Omega?
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Think of it as how a Saiyan's entire outfit can change if they go Super Saiyan.

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Yes it is, what is your contribution to the discussion?
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That makes no sense. Syn survived Goku's Kamehameha, and when he turned to Omega, he said his power had gone up by 10x
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Aug 6 2014, 02:06 AM
That makes no sense. Syn survived Goku's Kamehameha, and when he turned to Omega, he said his power had gone up by 10x
Now the real question is
1. Is the power boost linear?
2. More important, is Omega Shenron a Braggart? He probably got quite a boost, no doubt. But could the Super Saiyans generate enough energy for Goku to match that even briefly (not including the hacks powers given by Super Dragon Fist) and more importantly would it be out of character for Omega to brag?
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That makes no sense. Syn survived Goku's Kamehameha, and when he turned to Omega, he said his power had gone up by 10x
Now the real question is
1. Is the power boost linear?
2. More important, is Omega Shenron a Braggart? He probably got quite a boost, no doubt. But could the Super Saiyans generate enough energy for Goku to match that even briefly (not including the hacks powers given by Super Dragon Fist) and more importantly would it be out of character for Omega to brag?
1. Why wouldn't it be? That's like saying Kaioken isn't linear
2. He's vastly superior to Goku at this point, he doesn't need to make himself sound even more powerful
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Aug 6 2014, 12:31 AM
If Omega survived his DF, how the hell is this SSJ4 Goku even near Omega?
He survived because of Rage's regeneration.

Lazerbem the boost Omega got is 10-15x what Syn was, and Goku made it a point that Syn pretty much tanked his 10x Kamehameha wave so Goku had to surpass that vine to be able to win.

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If Omega survived his DF, how the hell is this SSJ4 Goku even near Omega?
He survived because of Rage's regeneration.

Lazerbem the boost Omega got is 10-15x what Syn was, and Goku made it a point that Syn pretty much tanked his 10x Kamehameha wave so Goku had to surpass that vine to be able to win.

Why would regen even matter if the attack Goku used was one of the most amped attacks in the series if Omega wasn't far behind that SSJ4 Goku? Pretty sure Omega didn't regen from the Spirit Bomb.
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If Omega survived his DF, how the hell is this SSJ4 Goku even near Omega?
He survived because of Rage's regeneration.

Lazerbem the boost Omega got is 10-15x what Syn was, and Goku made it a point that Syn pretty much tanked his 10x Kamehameha wave so Goku had to surpass that vine to be able to win.

Why would regen even matter if the attack Goku used was one of the most amped attacks in the series if Omega wasn't far behind that SSJ4 Goku? Pretty sure Omega didn't regen from the Spirit Bomb.
Because Rage's regeneration is hax. Like Buu being blown to bits by the Super Ghosts. And the Spirit Bomb erase even the atoms of the victims depending on how much energy it has.
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