Australian Couple abandon disabled son, leaving him with surrogate Thai mother

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Australian Couple abandon disabled son, leaving him with surrogate Thai mother
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* Ketchup Revenge	Aug 2 2014, 01:52 AM Post #1
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	An Australian couple hired a surrogate mother in Thailand, who became pregnant with the couple's fraternal twins, a boy and girl. However, after discovering that the boy had Down's Syndrome, and he had a congenital heart condition which would cost a lot of money, they left him in Thailand with the surrogate mother, and only took the healthy twin sister home to Australia. The Thai surrogate did not know the couple, due to the regulations in Australia and Thailand involving surrogacy. Speaking honestly, the Australian regulations don't allow out-of-country surrogates. The babies were born back in December, and the 21 year old surrogate mother has been taking care of the boy. She said she loves him regardless, because she carried him for 9 months. Click for Article What are your thoughts on this?
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Master Gohan	Aug 2 2014, 04:38 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	I wouldn't think its bad if they weren't twins. How do you think the girl will feel when she's older and she finds out her twin brother wasn't raised with her because of Down's syndrome. I would totally understand if it was just one baby and the parents didn't want the kid. But they are twins, kind of bad honestly.



~~CheckMateIzGod~~	Aug 2 2014, 06:21 AM Post #3
Posts: 378 Group: Suspended Member #10,783 Joined: January 26, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz and many other show's What Browser do you use? i commute between many browser's Favourite Manga none	Well all I can say is that the parents did make the "right choice" in the long run.And make no mistake, the decision they had to make was a really hard one.Personally I believe that from all the options which they had to choose from, none of them were right or wrong.
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Krystal	Aug 2 2014, 06:59 AM Post #4
Cooking Mama Posts: 1,728 Group: Member Member #7,091 Joined: December 19, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Gantz, Madoka, Gankutsuou, Full Metal Alchemist Favourite Manga Elfen Lied	CheckMateIzGod Aug 2 2014, 06:21 AM Well all I can say is that the parents did make the "right choice" in the long run.And make no mistake, the decision they had to make was a really hard one.Personally I believe that from all the options which they had to choose from, none of them were right or wrong. Why? It seems wrong to agree to a surrogacy but leave the young lady with a lifetime of financial grief because the child wasn't to their standards.



~~CheckMateIzGod~~	Aug 2 2014, 07:50 AM Post #5
Posts: 378 Group: Suspended Member #10,783 Joined: January 26, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz and many other show's What Browser do you use? i commute between many browser's Favourite Manga none	Why not? After all the surrogate lady did "carried him for 9 months".After all, the parents are giving the boy to the lady who gave birth to the boy,and she is willing to take care of him.So what's so wrong or right here? There is nothing wrong or right in this situation. The parents were being honest in the fact that they were not financially stable enough to provide basic needs for both the children, out of which one of them would require additional financial expenditure. The parents saw the situation from a more general and a bird's eye view, which would benefit all of them in the long run.
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* Ketchup Revenge	Aug 2 2014, 02:22 PM Post #6
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	CheckMateIzGod Aug 2 2014, 07:50 AM Why not? After all the surrogate lady did "carried him for 9 months".After all, the parents are giving the boy to the lady who gave birth to the boy,and she is willing to take care of him.So what's so wrong or right here? There is nothing wrong or right in this situation. The parents were being honest in the fact that they were not financially stable enough to provide basic needs for both the children, out of which one of them would require additional financial expenditure. The parents saw the situation from a more general and a bird's eye view, which would benefit all of them in the long run. Yea, but it's their kid, and legally, they are technically obligated to him. It all has to do with the financial part. They simply don't want to afford his care, so they simply leave him behind. It has nothing to do with giving the lady who gave birth their son, out of the kindness of their heart. And the financial point you made about not being able to afford more than one kid it is lamest excuse. Multiples happen OFTEN in surrogacy because they simply inject several embryos into the womb and hope that at least one will take hold. More often than not, more than one takes hold. If they weren't financially comfortable with more than one kid, they should've never tried to get a surrogate in the first place. And considering they only gave the surrogate mother $16,000 Australian dollars says something. In the US, it can run you around $40,000 dollars (I've looked it up because I was considering surrogacy, and my husband was considering sperm donation at one point), however, some surrogates in the US charge extra for multiples. I don't really know how it goes with other countries. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 2 2014, 02:23 PM.
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~~CheckMateIzGod~~	Aug 2 2014, 03:19 PM Post #7
Posts: 378 Group: Suspended Member #10,783 Joined: January 26, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz and many other show's What Browser do you use? i commute between many browser's Favourite Manga none	Like I said before there is nothing right or wrong in this situation. And your points and point of view are also absolutely correct in the sense that they should have followed the popular "safe haven law" route in order to make the situation legal. Well anyways to each his own.I would like you to think about a hypothetical situation deeply first.Suppose the parents were really "cold hearted","cruel" etc.And they did really abandon the kid because they didn't wont to waste their money on the kids medical expenditure. Now do you really want the kid to stay with these parents who don't really care about him due to his medical conditions?Isn't this also abandonment in a emotional level for the kid? (Now you don't need to answer my question as it kinda diverges from the topic.But I want you to think about it.Light up a pack of cigarettes and think about it) Edited by CheckMateIzGod, Aug 2 2014, 03:20 PM.
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Krystal	Aug 2 2014, 03:42 PM Post #8
Cooking Mama Posts: 1,728 Group: Member Member #7,091 Joined: December 19, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Gantz, Madoka, Gankutsuou, Full Metal Alchemist Favourite Manga Elfen Lied	I think what the parents did were wrong, but the event itself has a happier ending than expected by the surrogate taking charge. It's possible for people to do bad things but have the effect of those bad things lessened in the outcome. The parents did a very wrong thing, the surrogate did a very right thing, both children end up being cared for. It's just a matter of the things wrong with this world being fixed by the things right with this world.



* Ketchup Revenge	Aug 6 2014, 04:55 AM Post #9
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Just as an update, apparently the parents of the baby have been found, and the father has been convicted in the past of child sex crimes. Australia is still trying to decide on what to do to intervene. Click Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 6 2014, 04:56 AM.
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