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Beerus vs ?
Topic Started: Jul 30 2014, 09:39 PM (5,323 Views)
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Urameshi
Jul 31 2014, 04:01 PM
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Jul 31 2014, 03:58 PM
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Jul 31 2014, 03:53 PM
Emmeth
Jul 31 2014, 03:44 PM
A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?


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Post 2007 DBZ Content don't follow any of the 13 DBZ movies so yeah, the Fusion in question would have to be Vegetto.
Not sure what the DBZ Movies 1-13 have to do with this, there's a legitimate case that the potarra's seen aren't legitimate potarras. On top of that why isn't Metamoran being referred to? That's logically the first thing for fusion we'd go for. Saying it's Vegetto would have to ignore Elder Kai and Kaioshin freaking out and making a big fuss over them destroying the last pair.
But the always assume strongest rule would have to apply here. Vegetto was the only Fusion formed between Goku and Vegeta so why would he be referring to Gogeta?

And what's this whole "not having real Potara Earings" deal about? Don't they have a lot of them on the Kaioshin Planet?
If they had a lot of them as a stockpile surely they wouldn't be freaking out over Goku and Vegeta destroying the supposed last pair. I didn't see any potarra warehouses on Kaioshin's planet, although I may not have been paying attention to the background. Is there a dump on there?

"Fusion might not be enough for Beerus" would suggest a present tense no? I don't know about any time travelling shenanigans but I'd imagine they'd be referring to what is available to them at the time, which would be a SSJ3 Gogeta no? Applying to the strongest in the present tense wouldn't have to refer to the Vegetto of back then.
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I suppose they found their dead comrades somewhere and took their earrings, eh? That's possible, I guess. Otherwise, they'd have to make more Kais to get earrings.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:08 PM
I suppose they found their dead comrades somewhere and took their earrings, eh? That's possible, I guess. Otherwise, they'd have to make more Kais to get earrings.
The Kaioshin are some rough and brutal MFers then, they wished back their dead comrades...ripped the potarra earrings off their ears, then killed them again. Now flaunting their potarras as a trophy of their dominance. Don't mess with those Kaioshin man...they're some callous people.
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They are Gods of Creation, creating planets and not being able to create fusion-able earrings is a joke.
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Well, I digress here lol. Personally i'm fine with Gogeta being the Fusion in question here but in all likelihood, it would most likely be Vegetto being referenced here seeing as he was the dominant Fusion here and the fact that Vegeta most likely doesn't know about Fusion.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:11 PM
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Jul 31 2014, 04:08 PM
I suppose they found their dead comrades somewhere and took their earrings, eh? That's possible, I guess. Otherwise, they'd have to make more Kais to get earrings.
The Kaioshin are some rough and brutal MFers then, they wished back their dead comrades...ripped the potarra earrings off their ears, then killed them again. Now flaunting their potarras as a trophy of their dominance. Don't mess with those Kaioshin man...they're some callous people.
I think I prefer Beerus. At least he fits his job description :)

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I'll agree with your last assessment. Following DBZ, it makes sense.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:16 PM
They are Gods of Creation, creating planets and not being able to create fusion-able earrings is a joke.
Then these Gods of Creations must suck at their job if they're capable of whipping up a batch of Potarra's in a snap but freak out when they refer to the pair that Goku and Vegeta crushed as the last pair. Up to you to prove they're legitimate copies and ignore past statements. Unless creating planets and stars is as easy as a snap and a pair of magic earrings takes a process that lasts days or months.
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They are Gods of Creation, creating planets and not being able to create fusion-able earrings is a joke.
Then these Gods of Creations must suck at their job if they're capable of whipping up a batch of Potarra's in a snap but freak out when they refer to the pair that Goku and Vegeta crushed as the last pair. Up to you to prove they're legitimate copies and ignore past statements. Unless creating planets and stars is as easy as a snap and a pair of magic earrings takes a process that lasts days or months.
How can you all know if they weren't though? I mean, Kibito created Gohan a Kaioshin outfit with Potara earrings.
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Since when was it stated that they could create planets like *snap* that?
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Who's to say their isn't a Factory where Potara Earings are developed? lol.

INB4 Toriyama brings that up as a legitimate plot point in his next interview.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:21 PM
Since when was it stated that they could create planets like *snap* that?
I didn't apply that, Tconnery did.
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I guess that Kaioshin can't and had to rely on Kibito the entire time. But that doesn't make any sense once again because they freaked out, you have to ignore the statement that the pair Goku and Vegeta crushed were the last ones and Elder Kai And Kaioshin's reactions to said action. Saying "How do you know they were" isn't much of an argument btw. I could just as easily say that the pair Gohan had on him weren't legitimate potarras because "How do you know if they're legitimate?"

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I can see it now, Potarra inc.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:28 PM
I guess that Kaioshin can't and had to rely on Kibito the entire time. But that doesn't make any sense once again because they freaked out, you have to ignore the statement that the pair Goku and Vegeta crushed were the last ones and Elder Kai And Kaioshin's reactions to said action. Saying "How do you know they were" isn't much of an argument btw. I could just as easily say that the pair Gohan had on him weren't legitimate potarras because "How do you know if they're legitimate?"

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I can see it now, Potarra inc.
But it still stands though because that just going off a statement in the past, when we now have more additional info regarding the Kaioshins.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:33 PM
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I guess that Kaioshin can't and had to rely on Kibito the entire time. But that doesn't make any sense once again because they freaked out, you have to ignore the statement that the pair Goku and Vegeta crushed were the last ones and Elder Kai And Kaioshin's reactions to said action. Saying "How do you know they were" isn't much of an argument btw. I could just as easily say that the pair Gohan had on him weren't legitimate potarras because "How do you know if they're legitimate?"

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I can see it now, Potarra inc.
But it still stands though because that just going off a statement in the past, when we now have more additional info regarding the Kaioshins.
Well do you have a statement of Kaioshin and Elder Kai suddenly learning how to make legitimate Potarra's? Or is your entire argument based on conjecture? Especially when we have evidence to back the opposite, and strong evidence mind you.
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I guess that Kaioshin can't and had to rely on Kibito the entire time. But that doesn't make any sense once again because they freaked out, you have to ignore the statement that the pair Goku and Vegeta crushed were the last ones and Elder Kai And Kaioshin's reactions to said action. Saying "How do you know they were" isn't much of an argument btw. I could just as easily say that the pair Gohan had on him weren't legitimate potarras because "How do you know if they're legitimate?"

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I can see it now, Potarra inc.
But it still stands though because that just going off a statement in the past, when we now have more additional info regarding the Kaioshins.
Well do you have a statement of Kaioshin and Elder Kai suddenly learning how to make legitimate Potarra's? Or is your entire argument based on conjecture? Especially when we have evidence to back the opposite, and strong evidence mind you.
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