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Topic Started: Jul 30 2014, 09:39 PM (5,324 Views)
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Jul 31 2014, 03:32 AM
okay then
goku ssj4>>sbv1>ssj veggeto cause those were actually felt(cause ki's felt)
but what about goku not even trying veggeto in the movie and the hypothetical
ssj2 and 3 then that statement wouldnt include these forms as they were not ever formed
and goku saying how fusion wouldnt help

veggeto ssj3>>goku ssj 4>sbv1>ssj veggeto still then
It's a bit different though.

In GT, all he says is that SBV1 was the strongest ki he felt meaning he wouldn't take into consideration SSJ2 and SSJ3 Vegetto because he never felt their ki's. BoG, on the other hand has Goku saying that "not even a Fusion (Potara) between him and Vegeta" would work meaning we would have to take into consideration all forms of Vegetto given the "always assume strongest" rule.
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yeah thats exactly what im saying u just worded it better
so wouldnt veggeto ssj3>>ssj4 goku then considering all this
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Jul 31 2014, 04:14 AM
yeah thats exactly what im saying u just worded it better
so wouldnt veggeto ssj3>>ssj4 goku then considering all this
Might or might not be. There's nothing saying SSJ3 Vegetto is weaker or stronger than SSJ4 Goku so it depends on how you work things out.

Personally, I have SSJ3 Vegetto above SSJ4 Goku (Bebi Arc only).
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GT doesn't give a s*** about feats. Golden Ape Baby's Super Gyarikku-ho didn't smash Earth to pieces. Baby needed another one.
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Exactly, dunno why people keep bringing the whole "feats in GT thing". They know that Toei doesn't give a flak about feats and yet that's always their major argument.

Not pointing fingers to anyone but using that argument is a pitiful way to try to nerf GT below Z.
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It's a sad state of affairs when we bank on galaxy busting as a valid feat. No, f*** that.

A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?
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Jul 31 2014, 03:44 PM
It's a sad state of affairs when we bank on galaxy busting as a valid feat. No, f*** that.

A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?
Some people legitimately believe that despite all the freaking out over the fact Goku and Vegeta destroyed the last pair, they believe the potarra like earrings we see on the Kaioshin are legitimate potarra's and aren't fake copies.
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It's a continuity error. They aren't supposed to be there, but for the fact that they forgot, they are aesthetics.
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Jul 31 2014, 03:44 PM
A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?


My post from 2 pages ago...

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Post 2007 DBZ Content don't follow any of the 13 DBZ movies so yeah, the Fusion in question would have to be Vegetto.
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Jul 31 2014, 03:44 PM
A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?


My post from 2 pages ago...

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Post 2007 DBZ Content don't follow any of the 13 DBZ movies so yeah, the Fusion in question would have to be Vegetto.
Not sure what the DBZ Movies 1-13 have to do with this, there's a legitimate case that the potarra's seen aren't legitimate potarras. On top of that why isn't Metamoran being referred to? That's logically the first thing for fusion we'd go for. Saying it's Vegetto would have to ignore Elder Kai and Kaioshin freaking out and making a big fuss over them destroying the last pair.
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Emmeth
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A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?


My post from 2 pages ago...

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Post 2007 DBZ Content don't follow any of the 13 DBZ movies so yeah, the Fusion in question would have to be Vegetto.
That's not an answer. If you give me direct quotes from AT or anyone involved with the movies since 2007, I'll give you it.
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Jul 31 2014, 03:58 PM
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Jul 31 2014, 03:53 PM
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Jul 31 2014, 03:44 PM
A question concerning the fusions. How DO we know he isn't talking about metamorese fusion? Didn't they destroy the last couple of potara earrings?


My post from 2 pages ago...

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Post 2007 DBZ Content don't follow any of the 13 DBZ movies so yeah, the Fusion in question would have to be Vegetto.
Not sure what the DBZ Movies 1-13 have to do with this, there's a legitimate case that the potarra's seen aren't legitimate potarras. On top of that why isn't Metamoran being referred to? That's logically the first thing for fusion we'd go for. Saying it's Vegetto would have to ignore Elder Kai and Kaioshin freaking out and making a big fuss over them destroying the last pair.
But the always assume strongest rule would have to apply here. Vegetto was the only Fusion formed between Goku and Vegeta so why would he be referring to Gogeta?

And what's this whole "not having real Potara Earings" deal about? Don't they have a lot of them on the Kaioshin Planet?

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That's not an answer. If you give me direct quotes from AT or anyone involved with the movies since 2007, I'll give you it.


But there's no reason for him to refer to Gogeta if Gogeta was never apart of the so called "manga canon" that everyone asserts BoG is apart of.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:01 PM
But there's no reason for him to refer to Gogeta if Gogeta was never apart of the so called "manga canon" that everyone asserts BoG is apart of.
Gogeta was never part of the manga, but the possibility for Gogeta was, due to the fusion technique. Why leave that option out just because Gogeta never made an appearance in the manga?
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I don't see why we can't say he just got more earings
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