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| Malkovitch | Jul 29 2014, 05:31 PM Post #1 |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 29 2014, 09:53 PM Post #16 |
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Izanagi!
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The flames are 'as hot as the sun', so interpret that as you wish. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Jul 29 2014, 09:55 PM Post #17 |
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I doubt that. Seems like a way of saying it's really hot. If they were as hot as the sun the environment around them would fried and it would be burning into the ground and stuff |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 29 2014, 09:57 PM Post #18 |
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Izanagi!
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Yeah, it's very possible that the statement is a hyperbole. Regardless, the flames of Amaterasu are relentless; once Gohan gets hit by them, they won't fade away. |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 29 2014, 10:02 PM Post #19 |
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滅Are you frightened?
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Won't a simple Kiai blow that away though? Kid Goku can tank 1,000 to 6,000 degrees of heat from a jet's exhausts. Gohan should have some resilience akin to or higher than this. Just my input, I'm staying out of these type of debates lol. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 29 2014, 10:09 PM Post #20 |
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Izanagi!
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It's possible that he could, but Sasuke has excellent control of the flames and can keep throwing them at Gohan until he catches him by surprise. It wouldn't take too long; Gohan's inexperienced and needs guidance from Piccolo just to watch Yamcha's battle with the Saibaman. Regarding the heat issue; how hot would you have the RoSaT getting? Trunks complained about the heat and so did Gohan, iirc. |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 29 2014, 10:12 PM Post #21 |
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That word "complained" is a bit off, it's best to assume they "noticed" or at least "acknowledged" that the space their in is completely different from what their used to naturally. (This explains why Goku and Vegeta weren't really bothered you could say since they lived a decently amount of time on Planet Vegeta) Edit: you mentioned this for the hybrids my bad lol but I think this is still the best way to deal with the statements around Saiyans and ROSAT. Edited by Solid Snake, Jul 29 2014, 10:16 PM.
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| TheACE | Jul 30 2014, 11:17 PM Post #22 |
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Good question. I understand it will keep burning "hotter than the sun for 7 days and 7 nights" but who knows how true that is |
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| + Steve | Jul 31 2014, 12:41 AM Post #23 |
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Well the surface of the sun is 6000 degrees so we can assume around that at least, it would probably do minor damage but constantly and that would build up. Kinda hard to focus on a fight while you're burning especially for a kid. Gohans only hope is if he gets mad and blows Sasuke up before he's Amaterasu'd, Genjutsu'd or Amaterasu Arrowed. He's gonna have trouble with Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o too especially if he can teleport with it(seems doubtful but who knows) Also considering how much better black flames are compared to normal, black lightning is probably similarly hax. If basic Chidori can cut lightning a black one should do some damage. Also Genjutsu is a definite win Gohan is never surviving torture over and over he's just a boy that knows nothing of battle or war, Genjutsu torture would mess him up. If not torture just paralysis like what happened to Shee in the 5 Kage Summit, he could barely move and he's a sensory/Genjutsu type ninja. And also he could use it and make Gohan think he's killed him then stab him through the back as he did to Deidara which is easily possible with teleporting and just his general speed. |
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| TheACE | Jul 31 2014, 01:55 AM Post #24 |
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Yeah, that is true, but the fact that a cast Amaterasu from Sasuke didn't even get through Raikage's lightning aura makes it hard to believe it'll get through Gohan's Ki field, never the less his Hidden Power Golden Dome. And Sasuke's Mangekyo techniques still use up an absurd amount of energy. Eventually he will tire and won't be able to fight back. Same can possibly go for Gohan, but we much more often see Sasuke on the ground completely out of chakra. Again, depends on Sasuke's ability to get to Gohan flying at hyper sonic speeds. Real question is can it punch through a planet busting Masenko Ha? This is Gohan AFTER all of his friends and family were injured or murdered right in front of him. If you include the movies, this Gohan has been through the Dead Zone Arc, The World's Strongest, The Saiyan Arc and The Tree of Might and fought a war against the Ginyu Force and is currently facing Frieza, universal overlord of Evil. Yeah... Bull*hit, he'll be fine presuming Captain Emo Uchiha can even keep eye contact long enough without getting blown to bits. And Gohan is violently thrown out of a Genjutsu, that hidden power turns on and Sasuke is gonna get flattened like Form II Frieza. And what sucks for Sasuke? He won't have Form II Frieza's durability. We've seen that Susano has limits, and something tells me that the son of Son could probably push just as hard through it as the son of Senju. |
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| + supersaqer | Jul 31 2014, 09:41 AM Post #25 |
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Amaterasu had trouble burning down trees. Even fodder Shinobi like Karin survived it, as well as fodder Samurai. I guess it's hyperbole. Anyways, Gohan would blitz and oneshot Sasuke. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Jul 31 2014, 03:39 PM Post #26 |
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I'm always iffy when it comes to saying who's faster the naruto character or dbz character. If naruto characters are really faster than lightning like people say they are, then I don't know if gohan could blitz him. When kakashi cut the lightning bolt, did he predict where it would be jump at it before or something? Or is he legitimately faster than lightning? |
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| TheACE | Jul 31 2014, 03:42 PM Post #27 |
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Good question. It was kind of an off screen feat. |
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| + supersaqer | Jul 31 2014, 04:33 PM Post #28 |
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It wasn't stated by Kakashi himself, but by his comrade, Gai. He literally said that the technique got its name after cutting a lightning bolt. We don't know if it was real lightning, or a jutsu. We don't know if this statement even hold some kind of truth. I take it personally as a hyperbole. |
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| + Steve | Jul 31 2014, 04:54 PM Post #29 |
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It's not that it didn't get through Raikage simply dodged it, it's a projectile and Raikage is one of the only people with reflexes good enough to both see and dodge it in the series, if it was simply appearing on him it wouldn't have kept going and hit the samurai behind him. By this point they don't really his ShaRinnegan techniques are taxing but his Eternal Mangekyo ones he can spam a lot with no risk of going blind. To get out of a Genjutsu you need to get energy from an outside source so Gohan isn't getting out of one unless Sasuke lets him or if Gohan can figure out how to break out of it like Sasuke did which is hilariously unlikely and would no doubt require a Sharingan anyway.
@everyone if you're going to take something like Kakashi cutting lightning as hyperbole then you simply can't use statements like Popo's as legit.
Just because it's hot doesn't mean it should instantly disintegrate everything that's not how fire works. A standard fire burns at something like 1000 degrees and yet a fire on logs can burn for hours, being 6000 degrees would make it burn quicker but not instantly. Also no Gohan is not smart enough to not make eye contact if someone told him not to he'd probably still do it half the time, when do they not make eye contact in this series? Kinda dumb thing to assume really. Also Sasuke can easily dodge his blasts. Even if you were going to say Sasuke isn't fast enough with raw speed he can easily react to the blasts and just teleport, heck he could teleport Gohan right in front of the blast and kill him with his own move. Going all 'Hidden Power' on Sasuke would be his worst move ever, between the Saiyan and Namek arcs he was always fighting people who couldn't sense how much his power had risen, Sasuke can he has plenty time to prepare. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Jul 31 2014, 04:58 PM Post #30 |
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@Steve Personally I don't take popos literally anymore. So what do we make of kakashi cutting lightning though? If it was off panel it's pretty vague and I don't think we should assume he's faster than lightning. I don't really follow naruto much though so idk |
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