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Analysing Screw Attacks Goku Vs Superman Fake/Truth; Analysing screw attacks "analyzation" about Dragon Ball Verse Facts
Topic Started: Jul 26 2014, 05:16 PM (6,247 Views)
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Jul 26 2014, 08:28 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 08:22 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 08:21 PM
I'm surprised at this too...Snake Way being half the universe is kind of...well it's a bit wonky given it's only 1 million miles. Especially since there are 4 quadrants of Galaxies in there. How big does that make the galaxies? EXTREMELY small? I think we should just throw out the entire 1 million miles is half the universe nonsense.
I thought the one million miles part was already thrown out with the 1/2 universe part actually
Not when it's stated directly in the show and manga, if anything you'd throw out it being half the universe.
you are right that in the manga then it says 1 million km i read that in the manga however

in akira toriyamas interview and illustration of the universe then he stated that numbers didnt matter and even went as far as to say that the snake way is 1/2 of the universe


i myself cant believe it but if he says so and even illustrates it then i cant complain lol i am both happy and like wtf! but i am cool with it i guess...
I would believe it, if it didn't cause a HUGE inconsistency. If you take it as half the universe, then you must agree that Base Goku from the Saiyan Arc is hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of times faster than Fusion tier characters.
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Jul 26 2014, 08:28 PM
Well if we are to throw out Snake Way being a million miles and believe that Base Goku back when he was hundreds of thousands of times weaker than Gotenks and the fusions and even his SSJ3 self crossed half the universe in 6 months, then why is it that Gotenks' Travel Speed is (even if you take the panel for what it is without thinking it's a timelapse) pathetic compared to Goku's? Goku would literally run circles around Gotenks, Boohan, Bootenks, Super Boo.


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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
I think Happy solved a lot of questions I and many others had regarding the speed lol.


tconnor i apologize if i am being rude but since its official about the snake way being 1/2 the question you even asked to me i cant honestly answer it i am not the manga creator of dbz

i am wondering myself about the same thing how can he explain it ?


the only thing that can make me lead to believe that the gotenks part is gotenks only showed off and btw


oh btw guys i got to say something interresting and please find the chapter where tiensha yamcha chiatzu kururin/kulilin and picolo doing the same thing as goku did


basically what i am saying is Z fighters did snake way too i mean goku wasnt the only one who cleared snake way but the other warriors after they got killed by nappa and raditz then they did the same thing as goku such as clearing snake way
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can someone find this interview?

It's starting to sound like a outlier now
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But I'm not sure the Gotenks part contradicts the 1/2 universe thing, maybe it doesn't have to.
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Jul 26 2014, 08:34 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 08:28 PM
Well if we are to throw out Snake Way being a million miles and believe that Base Goku back when he was hundreds of thousands of times weaker than Gotenks and the fusions and even his SSJ3 self crossed half the universe in 6 months, then why is it that Gotenks' Travel Speed is (even if you take the panel for what it is without thinking it's a timelapse) pathetic compared to Goku's? Goku would literally run circles around Gotenks, Boohan, Bootenks, Super Boo.


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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
I think Happy solved a lot of questions I and many others had regarding the speed lol.


tconnor i apologize if i am being rude but since its official about the snake way being 1/2 the question you even asked to me i cant honestly answer it i am not the manga creator of dbz

i am wondering myself about the same thing how can he explain it ?


the only thing that can make me lead to believe that the gotenks part is gotenks only showed off and btw


oh btw guys i got to say something interresting and please find the chapter where tiensha yamcha chiatzu kururin/kulilin and picolo doing the same thing as goku did


basically what i am saying is Z fighters did snake way too i mean goku wasnt the only one who cleared snake way but the other warriors after they got killed by nappa and raditz then they did the same thing as goku such as clearing snake way
If Gotenks was only showing off then I suppose Piccolo was as well even though he insisted on getting Gotenks' a*** to Boo.
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Jul 26 2014, 08:31 PM
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I'm surprised at this too...Snake Way being half the universe is kind of...well it's a bit wonky given it's only 1 million miles. Especially since there are 4 quadrants of Galaxies in there. How big does that make the galaxies? EXTREMELY small? I think we should just throw out the entire 1 million miles is half the universe nonsense.
I thought the one million miles part was already thrown out with the 1/2 universe part actually
Not when it's stated directly in the show and manga, if anything you'd throw out it being half the universe.
you are right that in the manga then it says 1 million km i read that in the manga however

in akira toriyamas interview and illustration of the universe then he stated that numbers didnt matter and even went as far as to say that the snake way is 1/2 of the universe


i myself cant believe it but if he says so and even illustrates it then i cant complain lol i am both happy and like wtf! but i am cool with it i guess...
I would believe it, if it didn't cause a HUGE inconsistency. If you take it as half the universe, then you must agree that Base Goku from the Saiyan Arc is hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of times faster than Fusion tier characters.
hmmm is it possible to explain a way lel


well basically it goes like this about ABC logic

and do note that when i do this abc logic then dont accept it as a fact


Gotenks base > Base goku

i am talking about gotenks after goten and trunks trained in the hybolic time chamber which was also seen in the manga

Gotenks SSJ 3 > Goku SSJ 3 i apologize if i skipped a huge part of it lel


when i read the manga where gotenks fought super buu in ssj3 then it looked abit like this

Gotenks SSJ 3 === Super Buu ( meaning they were equal )

Goku SSJ3 >== Kid Buu goku in the manga stated that if he didnt waste his energy before his fight with kid buu then he couldve taken him down

the ( >== ) sign means that Goku was equal but also stronger its like a coding language so if he had his energy he might / might not be able to defeat him as full power ssj3
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Jul 26 2014, 08:41 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 08:22 PM
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I'm surprised at this too...Snake Way being half the universe is kind of...well it's a bit wonky given it's only 1 million miles. Especially since there are 4 quadrants of Galaxies in there. How big does that make the galaxies? EXTREMELY small? I think we should just throw out the entire 1 million miles is half the universe nonsense.
I thought the one million miles part was already thrown out with the 1/2 universe part actually
Not when it's stated directly in the show and manga, if anything you'd throw out it being half the universe.
you are right that in the manga then it says 1 million km i read that in the manga however

in akira toriyamas interview and illustration of the universe then he stated that numbers didnt matter and even went as far as to say that the snake way is 1/2 of the universe


i myself cant believe it but if he says so and even illustrates it then i cant complain lol i am both happy and like wtf! but i am cool with it i guess...
I would believe it, if it didn't cause a HUGE inconsistency. If you take it as half the universe, then you must agree that Base Goku from the Saiyan Arc is hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of times faster than Fusion tier characters.
hmmm is it possible to explain a way lel


well basically it goes like this about ABC logic

and do note that when i do this abc logic then dont accept it as a fact


Gotenks base > Base goku

i am talking about gotenks after goten and trunks trained in the hybolic time chamber which was also seen in the manga

Gotenks SSJ 3 > Goku SSJ 3 i apologize if i skipped a huge part of it lel


when i read the manga where gotenks fought super buu in ssj3 then it looked abit like this

Gotenks SSJ 3 === Super Buu ( meaning they were equal )

Goku SSJ3 >== Kid Buu goku in the manga stated that if he didnt waste his energy before his fight with kid buu then he couldve taken him down

the ( >== ) sign means that Goku was equal but also stronger its like a coding language so if he had his energy he might / might not be able to defeat him as full power ssj3
Iigh, refer to my last post. It kind of throws a wrench in your argument.
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Jul 26 2014, 08:37 PM
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Well if we are to throw out Snake Way being a million miles and believe that Base Goku back when he was hundreds of thousands of times weaker than Gotenks and the fusions and even his SSJ3 self crossed half the universe in 6 months, then why is it that Gotenks' Travel Speed is (even if you take the panel for what it is without thinking it's a timelapse) pathetic compared to Goku's? Goku would literally run circles around Gotenks, Boohan, Bootenks, Super Boo.


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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
I think Happy solved a lot of questions I and many others had regarding the speed lol.


tconnor i apologize if i am being rude but since its official about the snake way being 1/2 the question you even asked to me i cant honestly answer it i am not the manga creator of dbz

i am wondering myself about the same thing how can he explain it ?


the only thing that can make me lead to believe that the gotenks part is gotenks only showed off and btw


oh btw guys i got to say something interresting and please find the chapter where tiensha yamcha chiatzu kururin/kulilin and picolo doing the same thing as goku did


basically what i am saying is Z fighters did snake way too i mean goku wasnt the only one who cleared snake way but the other warriors after they got killed by nappa and raditz then they did the same thing as goku such as clearing snake way
If Gotenks was only showing off then I suppose Piccolo was as well even though he insisted on getting Gotenks' a*** to Boo.
well i certainly do believe that Picolo can match up vs gotenks as a super saiyan ( before hypolic time chamber ) in speed


so what you say isnt wrong

i do believe that the term you used and say is actually pretty good enought ^^
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but tconnor as i stated before i myself isnt sure about speed feats


you can try and calculate picolos speed feat vs gotenks ssj ( before hybolic time chamber ) but honestly i am an amateur at comparing others ^^


but its a fact that its 1/2 of the universe
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I still don't get how it's half the universe?

Am i missing something here?
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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
I think Happy solved a lot of questions I and many others had regarding the speed lol.
thank you lol XD ps i am sorry for spamming everyone!!
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Jul 26 2014, 08:46 PM
but tconnor as i stated before i myself isnt sure about speed feats


you can try and calculate picolos speed feat vs gotenks ssj ( before hybolic time chamber ) but honestly i am an amateur at comparing others ^^


but its a fact that its 1/2 of the universe
If it is fact that it's half the universe then we treat it as an outlier because every single travel speed feat afterwards HAILS in comparison to the Snake Way feat. You'd literally have to argue that every character that dared to try and show their travel speed was just toying the entire time.
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