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mssj vs fpssj
Topic Started: Jul 26 2014, 02:11 PM (1,447 Views)
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I like the idea of Super Saiyan 2 being a SSj Grade form. Just confirms what AT thinks of SSj2 and 3 now. I almost don't wanna call it SSj2 anymore. But that's OT.
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I prefer MSSJ.

I'm still confused whether SSJG2 or SSJG3 is fan termed USSJ though. Some people call SSJG2 USSJ, some call it ASSJ. Some call SSJG3 USSJ, Some call it USSJ2.

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Who the hell calls Grade 3 USSj2?
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I've seen USSJ2 before.

This is what I generally think:

SSJ Gr2 = ASSJ, potentially USSJ

SSJ Gr3 = USSJ, potentially USSJ2
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MSSJ-
having mark M on the forehead.
babidi casted >2< spells over vegeta.
a mind-control (M-marking) which failed. and another spell that push his own hidden powers and strengthening him.
you call that spell a "super steroid".


FPSSJ- it basically means you trained your SSJ transformation until it was 100% perfected and gain more of the transformation.
Gohan and Goku fought cell like that.
Edited by Shazam, Jul 26 2014, 07:01 PM.
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Jul 26 2014, 06:58 PM

MSSJ-
having mark M on the forehead.
babidi casted >2< spells over vegeta.
a mind-control (M-marking) which failed. and another spell that push his own hidden powers and strengthening him.
you call that spell a "super steroid".


FPSSJ- it basically means you trained your SSJ transformation until it was 100% perfected and gain more of the transformation.
Gohan and Goku fought cell like that.
Noooooooo

No no no, don't spread this false info

The M is Majin. Completely unrelated to mssj.
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Jul 26 2014, 07:33 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 06:58 PM

MSSJ-
having mark M on the forehead.
babidi casted >2< spells over vegeta.
a mind-control (M-marking) which failed. and another spell that push his own hidden powers and strengthening him.
you call that spell a "super steroid".


FPSSJ- it basically means you trained your SSJ transformation until it was 100% perfected and gain more of the transformation.
Gohan and Goku fought cell like that.
Noooooooo

No no no, don't spread this false info

The M is Majin. Completely unrelated to mssj.
ooooooooooo i feel stupid now...
soooooo what is the 'm' in mssj ?
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Jul 26 2014, 07:50 PM
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Jul 26 2014, 07:33 PM
Shazam
Jul 26 2014, 06:58 PM

MSSJ-
having mark M on the forehead.
babidi casted >2< spells over vegeta.
a mind-control (M-marking) which failed. and another spell that push his own hidden powers and strengthening him.
you call that spell a "super steroid".


FPSSJ- it basically means you trained your SSJ transformation until it was 100% perfected and gain more of the transformation.
Gohan and Goku fought cell like that.
Noooooooo

No no no, don't spread this false info

The M is Majin. Completely unrelated to mssj.
ooooooooooo i feel stupid now...
soooooo what is the 'm' in mssj ?
That 'm' means mastered, as they perfected the form.
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I always use MSSJ because the term FPSSJ would imply that Goku is not at full-power when using normal SSJ.

MSSJ would make more sense that it means Mastered Super Saiyan given that Goku and Gohan only mastered the form and don't get an increase from the form.
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Jul 26 2014, 07:53 PM
I always use MSSJ because the term FPSSJ would imply that Goku is not at full-power when using normal SSJ.

MSSJ would make more sense that it means Mastered Super Saiyan given that Goku and Gohan only mastered the form and don't get an increase from the form.
The way you differentiated them almost made it sound like you thought there was a difference between what was known as simply SSj, and MSSj. Lol, I almost responded to it accordingly.
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Man you guys are really missing the point. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is not at full power before the RoSaT.

"Goku trained in the Room of Spirit and Time before his fight with Cell. He draws out the power of the Super Saiyan to its limits, and the aura that surrounds him is different. "

It has to do with the fact that he has literally brought the form to its limits. It's at it's "full" capabilities after the RoSaT. This is backed up by the minimal gains made in the 7 year gap.

Anyway, you can interpret it a whole different way too...

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Look. The title page where Goku reveals his full power is clearly titled "Full Power". Now take a look at this next image.

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Coincidentally, this is the image that is in the Daizenshuu under Goku's Full Power SSJ category. His image is also found in the chapter titled "Full Power".

It could simply mean that is Goku's full power on a literal scale, or it could be referring to the fact that he brought the form to its absolute limits.

It's got nothing to do with him not being at full power prior to the RoSaT.
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So you mean to say it actually did change the Super Saiyan form.
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Nope, just the ability to use it for an extended period of time.
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Well I don't think I was missing the point, maybe I still am though lol
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The point is this. The form does not change, but the training that a Goku did brought the form to its absolute maximum. That's why it's called full power, as there isn't much more power in his reserve.
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