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Pre Crisis - New 52 Superman vs Asura
Topic Started: Jul 24 2014, 07:33 PM (2,486 Views)
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Pre to post to new, which version of these Supermen can beat Asura at his best.

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I think silver age superman can maybe do it. That's a MAYBE. Only because he's MFTL. I think superman prime can do it for sure though
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If all fails we can just throw in the Thought Robot and BAM game over.
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Jul 24 2014, 09:43 PM
I think silver age superman can maybe do it. That's a MAYBE. Only because he's MFTL. I think superman prime can do it for sure though
When you say Prime, do you mean it as "Sun dipped Superman 1,000,000" or Superboy Prime?

Back to the subject. Silver Age for Sure, Superboy Prime for sure, Superman 1,000,000. And maybe All-Star if he doesn't blow himself up first.
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Jul 25 2014, 12:51 AM
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I'm gonna disagree with that one. All-Star Superman is at least three times physically stronger than Post Crisis Supes, with the ability to lift over 200 quintillion tons. Technically not quite as physically fit as New 52 Supes, but damned strong. At his max Asura can crush a planet, but Superman can scorch or shatter one too.

Durability - Asuras arms fell off in atmospheric re-entry after his long fight in space. Superman breaks escape and re-entry velocity seamlessly. His only weakness, Kryptonite, is apparently ineffective, so it's reasonable to assume we can zig-zag the magic vulnerability like in his battles against Thor and Captain Marvel.

And oh God his Speed. Depending on how long it actually took him to GET to the Asteroid Belt in the comic (it's implied to be very quickly as he returns to oversee his home town from the moon.) if it even took him a minute he's already 8 times FTL, if he's fast enough to pull it off in a second then he's easily over 499 times the speed of light.

So, yeah presuming he doesn't blow himself up, I'd say it's reasonable to assume that All-Star Superman is enough to take down the strongest Asura.
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Jul 25 2014, 01:25 AM
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Jul 25 2014, 12:51 AM
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I'm gonna disagree with that one. All-Star Superman is at least three times physically stronger than Post Crisis Supes, with the ability to lift over 200 quintillion tons. Technically not quite as physically fit as New 52 Supes, but damned strong. At his max Asura can crush a planet, but Superman can scorch or shatter one too.

Durability - Asuras arms fell off in atmospheric re-entry after his long fight in space. Superman breaks escape and re-entry velocity seamlessly. His only weakness, Kryptonite, is apparently ineffective, so it's reasonable to assume we can zig-zag the magic vulnerability like in his battles against Thor and Captain Marvel.

And oh God his Speed. Depending on how long it actually took him to GET to the Asteroid Belt in the comic (it's implied to be very quickly as he returns to oversee his home town from the moon.) if it even took him a minute he's already 8 times FTL, if he's fast enough to pull it off in a second then he's easily over 499 times the speed of light.

So, yeah presuming he doesn't blow himself up, I'd say it's reasonable to assume that All-Star Superman is enough to take down the strongest Asura.
The strongest Asura is stronger than Destructor Asura whom was blasting away small stars and planets that dwarfed the Earth. Endgame Asura literally shattered the dimension of Naraka with a punch. He's a little bit stronger than you give him credit for. The entire Space Battle he had with Augus was WELL before he became Destructor Asura and even further before than Endgame Asura.
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Jul 24 2014, 09:43 PM
I think silver age superman can maybe do it. That's a MAYBE. Only because he's MFTL. I think superman prime can do it for sure though
When you say Prime, do you mean it as "Sun dipped Superman 1,000,000" or Superboy Prime?

Back to the subject. Silver Age for Sure, Superboy Prime for sure, Superman 1,000,000. And maybe All-Star if he doesn't blow himself up first.
When I say superman prime I'm referring to gold one http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_(One_Million)
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On to Superman, I think Silver Age can take Asura since given a few minutes he can break the bonds of infinity with his speed alone...the of course he's capable of making super powers on the fly. Not to mention on top of that Silver Age Superman also has the Sword of Superman, which increases his power the longer it is his posession, if need be he can absorb the sword itself and become all seeing and all knowing. Superman Prime One Million is more or less universal, given the power beings whom have been in the source wall have come back out with. Also the fact Mr.Mxytlz or whatever his name is looks up to SPOM, a fifth dimensional being at the time that created and tweaked with universes whenever he felt like it no less.
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Jul 24 2014, 10:02 PM
If all fails we can just throw in the Thought Robot and BAM game over.


You know it's not even fair.

Anyway, besides Thought Robot which shouldn't even be used in vs battles (unless it's something like PM & TR vs Presence & Michael or insanities like that), this is my list of Supermen who would take down Asura, from what I think is the strongest to weakest:

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Kismet Superman (Superman fused with Kismet and damaged Imperiex's armor (Imperiex is around Galactus' level))

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Trinity Superman (he is a high level reality warper: Trinity Superman, Batman and WW created their own world and beat the universe-threating Krona)

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Quantum Superman (an alternate dimensional Superman, he can change his size, make multiple copies of himself, he is a genius level intellect (similar to Dr Manhattan): he appeared in Final Crisis beyond 3D, he knew what was happening in the multiverse in past, present and future. He held Ultraman in his hand, while Ultraman was attacking him with heat vision: Quantum Superman didn't even care about that and said he is beyond fight. Finally, he controlled in his hand the matter-antimatter reaction (which powers and balances whole universes) necessary to let Superman enter and control the Thought Robot.
That's the only time we saw him, but I think he has the power and the potential to be even higher in this list.

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Superman One Million (the most powerful of the Superman Dinasty, empowered by Superman Prime One Million)

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There would also be someone else who would take this fight (like regular Superboy Prime, Superman Herald of Galactus with Power Cosmic and Our Worlds at War (OWAW) Sundipped Superman).

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So basically a ANY Superman except the following: Golden Age < DC Animated < Smallville < Movie Verse < Post Crisis < All-Star ~< New 52.
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Jul 25 2014, 12:29 PM
So basically a ANY Superman except the following: Golden Age < DC Animated < Smallville < Movie Verse < Post Crisis < All-Star ~< New 52.


Basically, even if there's some other version of Superman who could make in that list (for example Composite Superman).
In the other topic I said that, going by logical power increasings and powerscaling, Ssj4 Goku would pobably take down Asura (too bad GT is awful so Ssj4 Goku's actual feats can't compete): now, even going by powerscaling and implied power, Ssj4 Goku wouldn't be able to take any of those Supermen in that list, so yeas, Asura gets beaten.
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Jul 25 2014, 12:29 PM
So basically a ANY Superman except the following: Golden Age < DC Animated < Smallville < Movie Verse < Post Crisis < All-Star ~< New 52.
Smallville's Superman was able to move Darkseid's planet with ease and managed to through Hades from space to earth.

This Superman is my favorite as he's strong but not overly so.
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