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Urameshi's Overhauled PL List
Topic Started: Jul 23 2014, 08:38 PM (2,415 Views)
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Gave my list a pretty significant overhaul. Lemme know if you see something that's wrong in my list.

Also, i'll have my new Movies/GT list up in the Movies/GT section later.

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DBZ

Saiyan Saga and Namek Saga

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Freeza Saga and Trunks Saga

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Android Saga and Cell Saga

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Cell Games Saga and Great Saiyaman Saga

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World Tournament Saga and Babidi Saga

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Majin Buu Saga and Fusion Saga

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Bardock, The Father Of Goku and Trunks, The Lone Warrior

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Ascended SS is 1.2 x
Should be more. Piccolo would have acted like it was such an awesome increase if it was this small.

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Kamehameha: 950
924

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Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Don't really like these, but oh well.

[quoteZarbon (True Form): 29,000][/quote]Should be a bit lower. That's closer than Goku and Freeza there.

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3rd Form Freeza: 2,200,000
Too low. He was stronger than angry Gohan proven by the fact that he threw back his blast.

You missed Goku's KHH vs Freeza when it hit his Nova Strike.

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Krillin (Post-Training): 8,000,000
Son Gohan (Post-Training): 9,000,000
Tenshinhan (Post-Training): 5,000,000
Really? After training with Goku and Piccolo for three years, he is pretty much equal to a human?

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Vegeta (Post RoSaT Training): 360,000,000
Typo.

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USS Trunks: 31,500,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell (Suppressed): 14,000,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell (Full Power): 17,500,000,000
Perfect Cell (Suppressed): 35,000,000,000
Trunks was stated to be stronger than Cell.

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MSS Son Gohan (100%): 125,000,000,000
Perfect Cell ("True Speed"): 110,000,000,000
Should be a decent amount closer than that. They should be near equal.

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Son Gohan: 2,000,000,000
MSS Son Gohan: 100,000,000,000
Son Goten: 1,000,000,000
SS Son Goten: 50,000,000,000
I'm not a fan of this gap at all.

Edited by SSJ, Jul 23 2014, 08:56 PM.
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As far as power scaling goes, it looks good. Numbers are way too big for me, though.
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I can't remember why but I think King Vegeta has to > 10,000 for some reason, maybe I am remembering wrong.
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Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P5.3-4
Piccolo: “It’s started. His ki is increasing and increasing!!!”
Tenshinhan: “It-it’s a stupendous ki…!”

Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P10.2
Context: as Vegeta continues to turn into a Super Saiyan Grade II
Piccolo: “…It-it’s still increasing…!”


That seems like more than a 1.2x increase, eh?
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Vegeta: 8,500,000
SS Vegeta: 425,000,000


Why this during Hunt for Dr. Gero? He got a Senzu Bean, no?
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Jul 23 2014, 08:47 PM
I can't remember why but I think King Vegeta has to > 10,000 for some reason, maybe I am remembering wrong.
Bardock had reached/was nearing 10,000 or so, but no mention of closing in on the king was made.
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I pretty much copied pasted the format from my old list hence the mishaps here and there. Thanks for pointing that out though.

As for the ASSJ boost, I don't really see a big problem with it. A 1.2X increase would still be considered significant no?
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He's powering up for like 5 pages or something. The increase in power early on would be rather minuscule had the transformation granted him an extra 20%, but Piccolo's freaking out from the start.

Edit: I don't like calling that a transformation -_-
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As long as Kid Vegeta is stronger than King Vegeta, I see no problem with putting him at 10,000.
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I can't remember why but I think King Vegeta has to > 10,000 for some reason, maybe I am remembering wrong.
Bardock had reached/was nearing 10,000 or so, but no mention of closing in on the king was made.
I knew you'd know.

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I edited my post, Yusuke.
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Jul 23 2014, 08:59 PM
I edited my post, Yusuke.
I think he changed his view on the Goten & Gohan thing, some time ago.

He said he used the layout of his old lists so he'll probably change it.

Just a heads up. ;)
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Jul 23 2014, 08:42 PM
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Ascended SS is 1.2 x
Should be more. Piccolo would have acted like it was such an awesome increase if it was this small.

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Kamehameha: 950
924

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Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Don't really like these, but oh well.

[quoteZarbon (True Form): 29,000]
Should be a bit lower. That's closer than Goku and Freeza there.

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3rd Form Freeza: 2,200,000
Too low. He was stronger than angry Gohan proven by the fact that he threw back his blast.

You missed Goku's KHH vs Freeza when it hit his Nova Strike.

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Krillin (Post-Training): 8,000,000
Son Gohan (Post-Training): 9,000,000
Tenshinhan (Post-Training): 5,000,000
Really? After training with Goku and Piccolo for three years, he is pretty much equal to a human?

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Vegeta (Post RoSaT Training): 360,000,000
Typo.

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USS Trunks: 31,500,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell (Suppressed): 14,000,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell (Full Power): 17,500,000,000
Perfect Cell (Suppressed): 35,000,000,000
Trunks was stated to be stronger than Cell.

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MSS Son Gohan (100%): 125,000,000,000
Perfect Cell ("True Speed"): 110,000,000,000
Should be a decent amount closer than that. They should be near equal.

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Son Gohan: 2,000,000,000
MSS Son Gohan: 100,000,000,000
Son Goten: 1,000,000,000
SS Son Goten: 50,000,000,000
I'm not a fan of this gap at all.

[/quote]- Already adressed the ASSJ thing. 1.2X incease is still a significant increase, at least IMO. Not to mention I need to space out ASSJ Vegeta with Initial Perfect Cell.

- Fixed

- Those are the official numbers for Zarbon/Dodoria so I believe.

- Will fix it.

- Will fix it.

- Didn't you argue at one point that Gohan was below the Humans?

- Their is no typo

- Having a higher power doesn't have to mean being stronger. Trunks only increased his brute strength and not his speed hence him having a power disadvantage yet being stronger than Cell. You could have Trunks with a higher PL though.

- Same story as the above. Cell only increased his speed when he went from fighting Goku to Gohan hence him having a speed advantage and not being able to drop Gohan's ki with his punches. Likewise, you can have Cell with a PL advantage if you want to.

- I would like to have the gap between the Kids and Gohan to be smaller but there's the whole thing with Base Kids only being comparable to No. 18 hence me having a big gap between the two.
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Jul 23 2014, 08:52 PM
I pretty much copied pasted the format from my old list hence the mishaps here and there. Thanks for pointing that out though.

As for the ASSJ boost, I don't really see a big problem with it. A 1.2X increase would still be considered significant no?
Keep in mind that when Cell achieved his perfect form, #16 stated Vegeta was still "better than him at everything," which would include power, and this power-up was stated to be "considerable." You would also have to factor in SSj Vegeta being implied to be able to handle a suppressed Semi-Perfect Cell, who later underwent a power-up that Vegeta stated was quite noticeable as well.

SSjG2 Vegeta >~ Perfect Cell (initial) >> Crybaby Cell >> SSj Vegeta >~ Crybaby Cell (suppressed)

Fitting that into a 1.2x gap would be quite difficult.
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