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Noticed something about Pocus
Topic Started: Jul 21 2014, 11:09 PM (1,332 Views)
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I don't see where you're going with this SSJ2. Why would a Ki blast be sensible? Furthermore, the Saiyajins don't need to sense someone to have confidence in their ability to beat someone, especially Vegeta. He's ready to fight no matter what(Zarbon, Freeza, C-18, Cell, etc) . Hell, Vegeta claims he could beat Dabura judging his movements alone. Vegeta mentions nothing about battle power.
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I think you're reaching here personally.
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SuperSaiyan2
Jul 21 2014, 11:24 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 11:22 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 11:20 PM
@Emmeth: Then where does their confidence come from?
They are Saiyans. Do I need to explain myself further?
Yes, yes you do. It is out of character for Vgeta to begin a battle in base, unless he knows he can win using it. He couldn't sense the Androids but he never tried fighting them in Base.
In the case of 19, he saw his movements. In the case of 18, he knows androids > Trunks.
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Jul 22 2014, 12:00 AM
They think this whole Kaioshin stuff is a joke
Exactly. And you can still say...
Emmeth
Jul 21 2014, 11:19 PM
They could see the blast and judge from that.
Edited by Kyouks, Jul 22 2014, 04:45 AM.
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Meh, I tried lol
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Your whole "they could tell his strength from his blast" isn't totally off the mark...they did still see the blast, after all. The main issue is that Pui could easily be using only enough power to finish off small fry like Yamu.
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Jul 22 2014, 05:09 AM
Your whole "they could tell his strength from his blast" isn't totally off the mark...they did still see the blast, after all. The main issue is that Pui could easily be using only enough power to finish off small fry like Yamu.
Do you think Pocus is an advanced enough creature to do such a thing? Not to mention even if the blast is unamplified, it should still at least match the power he was outputting, similar to a punch. I don't know if he can hold back.
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I dunno about any of that. I just think the Saiyans aren't taking Kaioshin seriously.
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But why wouldn't they take him seriously? They took him seriously at the Budokai.

plz dun say context
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Just to put my two cents in here...

1. I don't think the Saiyans were taking Babidi, Dabra, Pocus, Yakon or Kaioshin seriously to begin with... even after what Dabra did.

2. I think they got a meh scale of Pocus, but I don't think the Ki blast was enough to get a clear picture of him.

Also, did I miss the part where Pocus couldn't be sensed?
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SuperSaiyan2
Jul 22 2014, 05:11 AM
I don't know if he can hold back.
Methinks it's kinda crazy to go this far anyways...I mean, Raditz could do it...
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 22 2014, 05:15 AM
But why wouldn't they take him seriously? They took him seriously at the Budokai.

plz dun say context
They don't ever seem to take him seriously once they reach the ship. Starting from when Kaioshin says that they'll have to kill the mighty Dabura to save their friends and Goku thinks "oh, duh, no big deal then."
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Jul 22 2014, 05:15 AM
Also, did I miss the part where Pocus couldn't be sensed?
It's possible that Majins (with the exception of Vegeta, who wasn't fully possessed) can't be sensed since Goku notes that he sensed nothing from Spopo, Dabura is judged by his movements rather than his chi, and Yakon is scouted out via the flow of the air and not chi.
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hey kyo i said the same thing on page one
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9022948&t=8492959

the blast was a small one and the only thing u can tell from it was that it was more then enough to beat the goon
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Dammit Havoc, leave it to you to beat me to the punch :arrg:
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Jul 22 2014, 05:22 AM
Master Saberoph
Jul 22 2014, 05:15 AM
Also, did I miss the part where Pocus couldn't be sensed?
It's possible that Majins (with the exception of Vegeta, who wasn't fully possessed) can't be sensed since Goku notes that he sensed nothing from Spopo, Dabura is judged by his movements rather than his chi, and Yakon is scouted out via the flow of the air and not chi.
Ahh that's right.

Then the question is... if they couldn't sense him and the ki blast isn't enough to make a stable judge on his power, how did Vegeta know he could beat him in Base?
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Vegeta and Goku don't seem to take Kaioshin or Babidi's top dog Dabura very seriously, so it's likely a bold estimation on Vegeta's part, I'd say. Besides, nothing says he wouldn't go Super Saiyan if necessary.

Out of universe, it's possible Toriyama messed up...whoopsie.
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Well yeah he'd go SS if he needed to.

Another question... how much of Vegeta's Base power was he using, because he didn't have that aura around him at all.
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