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Combat Speed
Topic Started: Jul 21 2014, 06:32 PM (1,469 Views)
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Jul 21 2014, 08:07 PM
Interesting. How can you say that they've got a certain combat speed, then?
Um because they dodge bullets from sub machine guns? Because Roshi and Krillin can have a prolong battle in under a second?
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Oh, but if they move out of the way, they're moving, right? Isn't it travel speed if they move?
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@Tconnor gotenks didn't take 30 minutes circling the earth
Took Piccolo 29 minutes to catch up then? He's not that slow lol. Otherwise he'd of had to be hundreds of times weaker than a messing around Gotenks.
Obviously plot based reason he couldn't catch up to him no other explanation really
Good ol' plot, always providing excuses.
yep there is no other explanation kinda like why doesn't gohan fly to school
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Oh, but if they move out of the way, they're moving, right? Isn't it travel speed if they move?
They can dodge in place too.
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@Tconnor gotenks didn't take 30 minutes circling the earth
Took Piccolo 29 minutes to catch up then? He's not that slow lol. Otherwise he'd of had to be hundreds of times weaker than a messing around Gotenks.
Obviously plot based reason he couldn't catch up to him no other explanation really
That's a copout answer. "plot" pfft...What lasting effect did it have on the plot? He defuses in front of Boo and Boo's like "Wait huh?" and Goten and Trunks go away?

Seems more likely to me that Piccolo had to try his best to keep up with Gotenks for 20 something minutes, arriving to them at 29 minutes and the rest follows. Otherwise Piccolo flew off immediately after Gotenks and Gotenks IMMEDIATELY finished and it took Piccolo 29 minutes to find him despite being able to track him, on top of him not being hundreds of times weaker than a messing around Gotenks. Which seems more likely?

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Oh, but if they move out of the way, they're moving, right? Isn't it travel speed if they move?
They can dodge in place too.
So, Krillin dodging Chaozu's Dodonpas is working off travel speed?

Just curious, is there any distinction between the two speeds aside from the two mentioned previously.
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Oh, but if they move out of the way, they're moving, right? Isn't it travel speed if they move?
They can dodge in place too.
So, Krillin dodging Chaozu's Dodonpas is working off travel speed?

Just curious, is there any distinction between the two speeds aside from the two mentioned previously.
Yes, thinking, and reaction speeds.
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No. Look at burter. His travel speed is above ginyu' but ginyu's combat speed is higher.
That's conjecture. Freeza's travel speed is definitely higher so the statement was wrong to start with.
I never said friezas travel speed isn't higher than burter's
The idea (I'm guessing) is that you're saying Ginyu Combat > Burter Combat and Bruter Travel > Ginyu Travel. Based loosely off Burter supposedly being the fastest and the statement wasn't referencing combat speed.

I'm saying the interpretation is wrong because A) soon after he was bragging about his speed Goku beat him in reaction speed B) Freeza is already faster in travel speed, so he's likely speaking in his own tier of being (Ginyu and Freeza being in different tiers).
That's what I meant. In his own tier. His travel speed is faster than someone else with around his power level


Edit: I always thought anything in short bursts is combat speed. For example the disappearing and reappearing. Idk if this is filler or not but when goku and frieza were racing to porunga goku disappears and reappears. So maybe he was using his combat speed to support his travel speed
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No. Look at burter. His travel speed is above ginyu' but ginyu's combat speed is higher.
That's conjecture. Freeza's travel speed is definitely higher so the statement was wrong to start with.
I never said friezas travel speed isn't higher than burter's
The idea (I'm guessing) is that you're saying Ginyu Combat > Burter Combat and Bruter Travel > Ginyu Travel. Based loosely off Burter supposedly being the fastest and the statement wasn't referencing combat speed.

I'm saying the interpretation is wrong because A) soon after he was bragging about his speed Goku beat him in reaction speed B) Freeza is already faster in travel speed, so he's likely speaking in his own tier of being (Ginyu and Freeza being in different tiers).
That's what I meant. In his own tier. His travel speed is faster than someone else with around his power level


Edit: I always thought anything in short bursts is combat speed. For example the disappearing and reappearing. Idk if this is filler or not but when goku and frieza were racing to porunga goku disappears and reappears. So maybe he was using his combat speed to support his travel speed
Combat speed would be how fast somebody is in a combat situation. Travel speed = Long Distances and non-battle situations.
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give the gotenks thing a rest
all we know is in 29 minutes and within that time
gotenks flew around the earth several times
and had time for a nap anything else is unsupported
u can have him at w/e speeds that fits ur purpose
but its not fact
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You'd figure they can't hit full speed unless they gather some momentum and have a solid distance to do that. So combat speed is probably lower than top speed fight speed.
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