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Jul 21 2014, 08:55 PM Post #46 |
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Yea I don't buy it. Weights suppress ki. Period. I don't see any other way around it. But if you want some extra help with your theory, there is always Piccolo and Freeza's conversation about Piccolo taking off the heavy clothes. Not that it means much, but if you want to spin it. To me, it's crystal clear though. So I guess I'm out. Edited by p123, Jul 21 2014, 08:56 PM.
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Jul 21 2014, 08:58 PM Post #47 |
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Well it's not that big a deal, I just thought it was stupid and rude. It was clearly coming to a close anyway. I already made my best points pages before the final page where it was closed on. These mods here are really pathetic. No wonder this forum is filled with a bunch of whiny bully victims. |
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| Vertical | Jul 21 2014, 09:01 PM Post #48 |
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But as I've said, even if you follow this path... no power increase was noted any other time he took off his turban/cape so shouldn't that imply that it wasn't changing? And that the only reason to remove such a thing would be to avoid Goten/Trunks vs 18 situations, or, if we assume it's still weighted, simply increase his overall speed? That's a shame. |
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Jul 21 2014, 09:04 PM Post #49 |
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Removal of weights resulting in increase of ki has been suggested on two occasions. 23rd Budokai and against Raditz. I don't think it needs to be repeated again. |
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| Vertical | Jul 21 2014, 09:06 PM Post #50 |
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Removal of weights has resulted in the increase of a scouter number (which may or may not ONLY measure Ki) on a single occasion. 23rd I've already responded to with the aide of physics. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 09:08 PM Post #51 |
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Piccolo powered up after taking of his weights.![]() I'm gonna go ahead and say he was suppressed against Cell (like he said), but not because of the weights. I'm siding with Vertical. |
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Jul 21 2014, 09:11 PM Post #52 |
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Of course he powered up when he took off his weights...we're saying that he cant fight at his full power when he's weighted, that's all. He could power up with his weights like he did against initial IPC, but he'd not come out as strong. Kamiccolo vs #17 is > Kamiccolo weighted vs IPC. |
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Jul 21 2014, 09:14 PM Post #53 |
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I'm saying that removal of weights results in gain of ki power. Scouters measure ki power. That's all. I just don't see Goku ( Weighted ) being capable of putting down Tien at the 23rd Budokai. I think that's definitely not implied. And Goku's weights here are suppressing Goku to way, way more than vs Raditz. This extreme case makes your suggestion ever more unlikely imo. |
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| Vertical | Jul 21 2014, 09:15 PM Post #54 |
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Even though I like this argument... Piccolo himself note that he wasn't fighting at his max vs Cell. Are we to assume that he is only referring to his weighted clothing? |
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Jul 21 2014, 09:16 PM Post #55 |
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No, weighted Goku and Tenshinhan were roughly physically even...maybe Goku slighty slightly superior but his unweighted strength is clearly far stronger. |
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| Vertical | Jul 21 2014, 09:17 PM Post #56 |
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I worry that this assumption might be closing your mind to alternate possibilities. Except that even without weights, Goku wasn't using his maximum strength against Tenshinhan. |
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Jul 21 2014, 09:18 PM Post #57 |
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When did he say that? Sure why not? weights the same thing as a suppression, as shown by Raditz. Why would he take off the cape in battle if it's not holding his complete power back? Mobility or something? |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 09:19 PM Post #58 |
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Piccolo powering up after taking of weights against 17 isn't consistent with his past fights though. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 21 2014, 09:21 PM Post #59 |
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You could say he was already at his best with weights in all prior instances, but against 17, he was at his everyday level initially or whatever you'd like to call it. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 09:22 PM Post #60 |
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Constant training?
I can live with that. |
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