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| Piccolo - Weighted or not? | |
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| Vertical | Jul 21 2014, 08:16 AM Post #16 |
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Well, the reason I was bringing it up is because if we can agree to the idea that weighted clothing has no effect on power... but, whether weighted or not, Piccolo's white clothing can be a hindrance (specifically that badass cape - see Goten/Trunks vs 18)... Weighted training is still shown to be effective at high levels (Goku pre Buu Arc tournament). So you could claim that, at this point in the series... his weights should be so incredible it would be strange not to show them hitting the ground, or to see a reaction when they were dropped pre-17... OR you could argue that, he always uses weighted clothing so making note of it would be redundant. The point is, I believe it could go either way but because the status quo up until that point has been to make note of his clothing being weighted... you may have to find a middle ground... such as that they were still weighted but not dramatically so. Either that... or you go against the point I was discussing earlier and simply state that because no power changes are noted other than the one versus Raditz, he never used weighted clothing post-Raditz. So many choices
Edited by Vertical, Jul 21 2014, 08:18 AM.
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 09:25 AM Post #17 |
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You're right about the cape, but it can also be used to Piccolo's advantage as shown in his fight against Krillin in the 23rd TB. Welp, guess that never happened in the manga. I keep remembering the anime by accident. To be fair, it was superior. Edited by Emmeth, Jul 21 2014, 09:28 AM.
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Jul 21 2014, 04:28 PM Post #18 |
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Kamiccolo taking off his weights still garner him power increases, certainly against #17 and probably post RoSaT as well...although that's more uncertain.
Edited by Victorious, Jul 21 2014, 04:30 PM.
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Jul 21 2014, 05:19 PM Post #19 |
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Yea after looking at every instance of where Piccolo took his cape off I'd think he uses weights throughout the series. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2014, 06:54 PM Post #20 |
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What about when he takes it off agaisnt Goku in the 23rd Budokai? Or when old King Piccolo took off his cape to fight Goku? |
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Jul 21 2014, 07:10 PM Post #21 |
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I don't think Piccolo did then. Him wearing weights isn't established until his fight with Raditz. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 07:10 PM Post #22 |
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Doesn't have it on then, which I'm assuming you are implying. Even if King Piccolo doesn't count, Majunior doesn't have weighted clothing in 23rd TB. Goku doesn't take note of it until arrival of Raditz. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2014, 07:14 PM Post #23 |
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I'm implying the exact opposite. I'm saying removal of cape doesn't imply it's weighted because he was removing it for big fights way before he even started wearing weights. The removal of the turban could imply weighted though since he still kept his turban on vs Goku in the 23rd budokai. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Jul 21 2014, 07:16 PM Post #24 |
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I still stand by my statement. After the Raditz fight that showed Piccolo wore weights, it's never contradicted again. There'd be no reason for him not to use weights once he started anyway. It helps with training and he'd be used to the weights anyway. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 07:19 PM Post #25 |
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The objective and logical reason is that AT either forgot or thought it unimportant after the Namek arc. As for the turban, I think if he wanted to fight 100% seriously he'd take it off too if it was weighted. A turban doesn't get in the way like a cape would. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2014, 07:21 PM Post #26 |
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That's pretty much what I said lol. Removal of the cape doesn't prove anything because Piccolo always took it off for serious fights, even before wearing weights. But the fact he kept the turban on agaisnt Goku in the 23rd Budokai means it's likely linked to being weighted. |
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Jul 21 2014, 07:29 PM Post #27 |
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I think the important thing is to maintain the status quo. We generally know when everyone started wearing weights and when they stopped wearing weights. With Piccolo, we do get two different suggestions of power. Weighted Piccolo - Rivaling 17 and 18 UnWeighted Piccolo- Equal with 17 I think that alone shows that the weights at least give some minor boost. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 07:34 PM Post #28 |
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Then you misunderstood. I was implying he wasn't wearing a weighted turban, considering he always took it off post-23rd TB when it was established it was also weighted. If it was weighted in 23rd, he would take it off to fight 100%. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2014, 07:34 PM Post #29 |
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To be fair Piccolo was stated to be stronger than #17 (he called his punches weak) it's just that #17 had speed and infinite stamina on his side. But yeah, I think Piccolo kept weights regardless.
I'm still misunderstanding. I'm not saying Piccolo wore a weighted turban in the 23rd budokai. Edited by Clearin, Jul 21 2014, 07:35 PM.
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| + Emmeth | Jul 21 2014, 07:36 PM Post #30 |
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Damnit, Clearin. Make yourself clearer next time! ![]() Alright, I get you now. Nothing more to add
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