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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,123 Views)
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I don't think standing matters as much as how long he's lasted against one of the Cell Juniors. That should be a testament to the fact that he's pretty strong. I think he's only a bit weaker than 50% Goku.
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Read the destructive post from page 1 post 2 Clearin.

There is no luck involved KP, Piccolo is literally strong enough to take a beating for quite a time. He is in the game, he just has no chance to win.

Think Tao Pai Pai vs Goku Post Korin, think Piccolo Weighted vs Freeza 2nd Form FP. There's a level that exists that is not rivaling, yet cannot put down in a minute.

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Piccolo would never exit the Rosat at 45, when Goku is 55. Piccolo has pride and will top the highest power shown. He tops it just barely, but Piccolo isn't leaving the Rosat early unless he's beaten Goku.
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I'm just wondering; if we got a statement confirming Vegeta's suspicion of Goku's true strength, why didn't we get one confirming that Piccolo actually had suspicions and that they were true?

Hmm, very strange indeed.
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Because that was the entire point of the conversation between Piccolo and Goku. There's a reason why Piccolo and Trunks have zero confidence even though they both surpassed 50% Goku, it's because Goku told them 50% Goku was an irrelevant power. Vegeta wasn't there for that, but he heard the rumors. Chose to act like it didn't matter, but deep down inside he knew better. You up to speed now?

They should let me do the filler for DB Kai man. I'd put Piccolo in the Rosat training doing exactly what I have him doing in my post from the 1st page. That's quality filler right there.
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Cell jr's were toying around with the Z fighters. If the humans were laying on ground, why isn't Goku standing there too? How weak would've gotten then? Piccolo standing there would make him closing to MSSJ Goku 50% IMO. I doubt 50% Goku could stand like that against a Cell Junior.
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Jul 20 2014, 03:53 PM
Because that was the entire point of the conversation between Piccolo and Goku. There's a reason why Piccolo and Trunks have zero confidence even though they both surpassed 50% Goku, it's because Goku told them 50% Goku was an irrelevant power. Vegeta wasn't there for that, but he heard the rumors. Chose to act like it didn't matter, but deep down inside he knew better. You up to speed now?
Nah, I don't think I'll ever be up to speed.

How about we look at a hypothetical for a sec.

Cell : >> 50
50% Goku : 50
Piccolo : 35-40

If they believe that 50% = 100%, Trunks would be surprised because Piccolo was told he was pretty much useless when he's so close to what they think Goku's full power is.
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Piccolo and Trunks both know that Goku will be much higher than 50. The only way they would 100% know is from that conversation with Goku.

Even at that level you have, it's the same conclusion.
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Jul 20 2014, 03:59 PM
Piccolo and Trunks both know that Goku will be much higher than 50. The only way they would 100% know is from that conversation with Goku.

Even at that level you have, it's the same conclusion.
How does Trunks know that Goku's true power is higher than 50?
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Jul 20 2014, 03:49 PM
Read the destructive post from page 1 post 2 Clearin.
That's your own interpretation of events, but not everyone necessarily agrees with it.
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That is an interesting point. Does Piccolo know that Goku has only shown 50% of his power at that point?
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Because you need to understand the true nature of Piccolo's conversation with Goku.

Look, I could be overplaying the point of Piccolo being above 50% Goku. Having him at 30-40% is fine as well. Heck I might even go with that as well if I get a rock solid point of view on how Piccolo can still be in the game against Cell Jr that long into the fight.

Piccolo is showing heavy damage indeed in the cover chapter.

Perfect Cell was still standing after trading blows with Ssj2 Gohan right? So it's totally possible. No one has painted the picture of Cell Junior vs Piccolo perfectly yet, so I'll wait. This is uncharted territory.

Your right Clearin. But it's conjecture. An unproven hypothesis that appears to be correct.

My explanation of Piccolo's conversation blows away any others. Of course that's opinion as well.

Tell you what guys, paint me a picture of Cell Junior vs Piccolo and I can concede to the 30-40% range.


No Piccolo doesn't know what Goku's FP is. I have an estimate for the group as well if you'd like....


Vegeta's cocky opinion


Vegeta 66
Cell 55-60
Goku 50


" The rumors " aka Piccolo and Trunks POV after learning that Piccolo is useless, Vegeta also feels this way deep down...


Cell 80-85
Goku 75
Vegeta 66


What the actual ability turns out to be

Cell 110
Goku 100
Vegeta 66


Read the manga with those numbers and it fits perfectly.
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Jul 20 2014, 04:06 PM
That is an interesting point. Does Piccolo know that Goku has only shown 50% of his power at that point?
He didn't hear Goku's comment to Karin, so it's logical to assume that he didn't know
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f***, my page reloaded on me. Well, P, don't ever tell me I'm welcome in my own bathroom. That's sick and makes me reconsider what it is you truly want out of this business partnership.

I think "destructive" is overstating things by about six levels and ten titty twisters.

Piccolo's quite a guy, though, eh? He's surpassing everybody from the previous saga except when the Boo arc rolls around. He didn't even surpass Vegeta's Cell Games power from all the evidence we have, and that wasn't much higher if we're going by P's innuendo here.
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Well, Trunks knows Cell >> 50% Goku, right? If Trunks is shocked to hear post RoSaT Kamiccolo is fodder....So Trunks knows Cell is clearly above Goku, but still puts his faith on Goku at CG. Trunks would probably know about that Goku has more power into it.
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That is an interesting point. Does Piccolo know that Goku has only shown 50% of his power at that point?
He didn't hear Goku's comment to Karin, so it's logical to assume that he didn't know
Perhaps, but is there any actual evidence to show that he doesn't know prior exiting the ROSAT?
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