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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,124 Views)
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Izanagi!

Calling your opponent's argument 'worthless' isn't very nice.
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How can you come up with a conclusion that Viz translation is wortheless?
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Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:33 PM
How can you come up with a conclusion that Viz translation is wortheless?
It's worthless in this case because it doesn't exist.
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Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:30 PM
He did ask him. Atleast on Viz.
No, he didn't. He does the same in Viz as he does in the Japanese version, he states he's not strong enough and Goku merely agrees. It's the Anime where he asks.

Edit: Just realised SuperSaiyan2 already said this, whoops.
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Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:21 PM
Would a someone at Semi Perfect Cell, still be standing here?

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You'll never have any ammunition to load that gun because the gun doesn't specify which kind it takes.
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Jul 20 2014, 03:34 PM
Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:33 PM
How can you come up with a conclusion that Viz translation is wortheless?
It's worthless in this case because it doesn't exist.

How can you judge if it does exist or not? People who read Viz , are reading the wrong context?
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This isn't a discussion about how much Viz panders to America. Two out of three dentists agree that Piccolo doesn't ask Goku to compare manhoods, so there's little backing the opposite notion.
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Jul 20 2014, 03:35 PM
Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:30 PM
He did ask him. Atleast on Viz.
No, he didn't. He does the same in Viz as he does in the Japanese version, he states he's not strong enough and Goku merely agrees. It's the Anime where he asks.

Edit: Just realised SuperSaiyan2 already said this, whoops.

Lord Clearin showed me the light on this subject a few days ago, now I will never forget. :)
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Jul 20 2014, 03:37 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 03:34 PM
Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:33 PM
How can you come up with a conclusion that Viz translation is wortheless?
It's worthless in this case because it doesn't exist.

How can you judge if it does exist or not? People who read Viz , are reading the wrong context?

The statement matches what Herms has.

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Jul 20 2014, 03:36 PM
Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 03:21 PM
Would a someone at Semi Perfect Cell, still be standing here?

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You'll never have any ammunition to load that gun because the gun doesn't specify which kind it takes.

You think someone as Semi Perfect Cell tier would be standing there?
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Crazy Awesome Legend

Apparently Tien was still standing too so...


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I don't take the Cell Jr fight seriously because I don't think anyone below Freeza's level (humans) should even be alive. The Cell Jrs clearly aren't taking it all that seriously, with the exception of maybe Vegeta and Trunks' Cell Jrs.

Imo having Piccolo standing, but not getting a single hit on his Cell Jr, is a way of Toriyama giving Piccolo his own tier.

Tier 1 - Humans - All on the ground and no hits on their Cell Jrs
Tier 2 - Vegeta and Trunks - Still standing, and their Cell Jrs have clear marks on their face to indicate they've been hit (He even shows Vegeta hitting his Cell Jr at one point)
Tier 3 - Piccolo - Still standing, to show he's stronger than humans, but can't hit his Cell Jr to show he's weaker than Vegeta and Trunks.
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This thread.^

When we figure out the Mystery of the Seven Children of Cell, we'll be able to find out where Piccolo is. Until then, we've got to focus on the Children of Cell. They are the key to all of this, my scholarly friends!

@Clearin: I concur.

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You think someone as Semi Perfect Cell tier would be standing there?

Which kind of ammo are you going to try this time?
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Viz and Herms translation are identical in meaning regarding Piccolo's question. It's not really a question, it's a statement. Piccolo says I've grown stronger but I'm still useless. Goku says Duh. The issue is Piccolo was hoping he wasn't. There was doubt. There would be zero doubt if Piccolo was only as strong as Semi Cell. And Trunks is shocked to realize Piccolo is useless. That's the issue.

It's simple really, Cell Juniors toyed around with everyone they could. They went all out on everyone they had to.
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They went all-out on Piccolo? Guy's got tough skin, then. Didn't manage jack but to keep his knees from buckling at the most opportune of times.
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Jul 20 2014, 03:44 PM
Viz and Herms translation are identical in meaning regarding Piccolo's question. It's not really a question, it's a statement. Piccolo says I've grown stronger but I'm still useless. Goku says Duh. The issue is Piccolo was hoping he wasn't. There was doubt. There would be zero doubt if Piccolo was only as strong as Semi Cell. And Trunks is shocked to realize Piccolo is useless. That's the issue.

It's simple really, Cell Juniors toyed around with everyone they could. They went all out on everyone they had to.
Where did you get that there was doubt from? Piccolo said that because Goku complimented Piccolo's new strength, it was Piccolo's way of telling Goku to just be realistic and that his new strength means jack s*** if he can't do anything against Cell.
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