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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,102 Views)
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No, theres no reason for having Piccolo at a set level as I mentioned many times before.

"Rising to a different level" could very well mean an increase of 1.2-2X Piccolo's previous power. It all comes down to how you think Piccolo fairs against other characters. Saying he has to be at X level isn't factual.
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Victorious
Jul 20 2014, 11:07 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 10:57 PM
]He expects a power that's > 50% Goku, yeah, but it's not said by how much. The only way he could know that he wouldn't be of help is if he was notably weaker than 50% Goku.
UGH,

It's clearly a lot more than what Future Trunks was expecting.

And how do we know it's a lot more than what Future Trunks was expecting? Because he was surprised and nervous from the conversation.

Future Trunks already knows Cell is > 50% Goku....Goku said that on Kami's lookout to all of them.

Future Trunks is surprise to learn that Kamiccolo is fodder to Cell. So that means Kamiccolo must have been talking about a power much higher than a power that was simply > 50% Goku.




Fine then. How about this;

Piccolo's relatively near to what they assume Goku's full power is, and seeing Goku throw aside Piccolo's power saying that it'd be no help at all just confirmed Trunks' fears that Cell was as strong as he'd been told. There's absolutely no reason to have Piccolo very near to Goku because of that conversation, it's merely your personal preference.

You can have Piccolo at 35/40 and still have him as pure fodder for someone who's > 50% Goku.
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Excellent Snake.
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Ooooh, unnecessary harshness. You've got me crying like a baby over here, Vic. It's like you stabbed me in the heart. You know what a decent person does when they encounter someone who they think lacks intelligence? They educate them. They don't act like a meanie-pants, y'know?
OK, so just to be sure I don't straw man you.

Why is it that Kamiccolo didn't go down?
Why did the humans go down?

You're of the opinion that the Cell Juniors CAN put Kamiccolo down instantly right? Or am I wrong?


Edited by Victorious, Jul 20 2014, 11:16 PM.
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Well Vic if they are ok with Piccolo being relatively close to 50% Goku I would take that as a success dude.
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Jul 20 2014, 11:12 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 11:07 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 10:57 PM
]He expects a power that's > 50% Goku, yeah, but it's not said by how much. The only way he could know that he wouldn't be of help is if he was notably weaker than 50% Goku.
UGH,

It's clearly a lot more than what Future Trunks was expecting.

And how do we know it's a lot more than what Future Trunks was expecting? Because he was surprised and nervous from the conversation.

Future Trunks already knows Cell is > 50% Goku....Goku said that on Kami's lookout to all of them.

Future Trunks is surprise to learn that Kamiccolo is fodder to Cell. So that means Kamiccolo must have been talking about a power much higher than a power that was simply > 50% Goku.




Fine then. How about this;

Piccolo's relatively near to what they assume Goku's full power is, and seeing Goku throw aside Piccolo's power saying that it'd be no help at all just confirmed Trunks' fears that Cell was as strong as he'd been told. There's absolutely no reason to have Piccolo very near to Goku because of that conversation, it's merely your personal preference.

You can have Piccolo at 35/40 and still have him as pure fodder for someone who's > 50% Goku.
Ohh so Kamiccolo is near to 50% Goku? I thought you were arguing it made sense if he's not.

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Jul 20 2014, 11:14 PM
Well Vic if they are ok with Piccolo being relatively close to 50% Goku I would take that as a success dude.
u didn't convince any1, dat's wat they thought from the beginning
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Jul 20 2014, 11:14 PM
Well Vic if they are ok with Piccolo being relatively close to 50% Goku I would take that as a success dude.
I was always fine with it. 35/40 is relatively close.

Vic, take down the straw man. I was arguing against Piccolo > 50% Goku
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Am I being ignored?

I've been saying many times before that Piccolo doesn't have to be at a set level.
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Jul 20 2014, 11:16 PM
Am I being ignored?

I've been saying many times before that Piccolo doesn't have to be at a set level.
I agree, I think he is weaker than ImPerfect-Cell (post-Humans) but that's just me.
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Jul 20 2014, 11:14 PM
Well Vic if they are ok with Piccolo being relatively close to 50% Goku I would take that as a success dude.
I was always fine with. 35/40 is relatively close.
That's not relatively close in a fight. That means 50% Goku lays the smack down.
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Jul 20 2014, 11:14 PM
Well Vic if they are ok with Piccolo being relatively close to 50% Goku I would take that as a success dude.
I was always fine with. 35/40 is relatively close.
That's not relatively close in a fight. That means 50% Goku lays the smack down.
So, what's relatively close?

I see it as being fairly close, but there's still a notable gap there. Anything above that would be rivalling.
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Same though I have Post-RoSaT Piccolo midly above Post-Humans Imperfect Cell.

Works great given Piccolo was at a massive disadvantage to that Cell and Cell didn't even take an damage from his most amped attack.
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35/40 means Goku wins 8/10 times.
Edited by Emmeth, Jul 20 2014, 11:20 PM.
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Jul 20 2014, 11:06 PM
SSJ Vegeta: 100
SSJ Trunks: 98
MSSJ Goku 50%: 95
Piccolo: 92

I have it like it currently. Seems fine by me.

Vegeta thinks he's gonna give Cell a beating. No way is he barely over 50% Goku like that.
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