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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,106 Views)
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Alright let's switch course. This is going nowhere. How many sensu beans did they bring to the tournament? Anyone know?
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Jul 20 2014, 09:49 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 09:46 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 09:42 PM
The very idea of one of the humans surviving a hit from a full power Cell Kid is ludicrous
Are Vegeta and Trunks barely fighting evenly with a full power Cell Junior or not?
Perhaps. Regardless, they're barely fighting evenly with a Cell Kid that might be fooling around. Could you imagine if one of the humans got in the way and got hit by a punch or kick? It'd be over for them. Yet we see the humans surviving the attacks and attempting to fight back. Unless they're all > 50% Goku, you have to admit that they were holding back.
Perhap what, yes or no? It's a simple question. Are they using full power against Vegeta and Trunks when he made that comment or not?

What's your view?
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p123
Jul 20 2014, 09:50 PM
Alright let's switch course. This is going nowhere. How many sensu beans did they bring to the tournament? Anyone know?
8, I think.

Cell gets one, and later Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and Piccolo all get one. If there was any more they'd have used one to heal Gohan at the end.
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Why is the Senzu Beans relevant here? lol.
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I think that's right.

So what are all you guys saying? That Cell Juniors went all out on Vegeta and Trunks only, and held back against everyone else?

So they brought one sensu for each member of the Z Team, besides 16? Imagine 16 taking a sensu with just his head and regrowing his body. Lol.

Ok so instead of Gohan getting one, Cell got his essentially.
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Jul 20 2014, 09:51 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 09:49 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 09:46 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 09:42 PM
The very idea of one of the humans surviving a hit from a full power Cell Kid is ludicrous
Are Vegeta and Trunks barely fighting evenly with a full power Cell Junior or not?
Perhaps. Regardless, they're barely fighting evenly with a Cell Kid that might be fooling around. Could you imagine if one of the humans got in the way and got hit by a punch or kick? It'd be over for them. Yet we see the humans surviving the attacks and attempting to fight back. Unless they're all > 50% Goku, you have to admit that they were holding back.
Perhap what, yes or no? It's a simple question. Are they using full power against Vegeta and Trunks when he made that comment or not?

What's your view?
I don't believe they were. Perhaps they were close to their full power, but they were still 'fooling around' to some degree. Cell never doubt a the Kids' ability to take out Vegeta and Trunks.
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Snake.... So you are saying...

Cell Juniors ( FP ) > Cell Juniors ( Fooling Around ) ~ Vegeta / Trunks ?
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Jul 20 2014, 09:56 PM
Snake.... So you are saying...

Cell Juniors ( FP ) > Cell Juniors ( Fooling Around ) ~ Vegeta / Trunks ?
Essentially yeah, that's what I'm saying. For the Cell Kids that fought Vegeta and Trunks anyway.
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Not to mention the Jr's that fought Vegeta and Trunks had a serious expression on their face, a trait that's not shared by the other Cell Jr's.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. We got to see Cell Jr vs Vegeta and Trunks at least a little bit. Specifically the Vegeta fight, we see Vegeta land a hard punch on Cell Jr causing bruising and then we see Cell Jr angrily respond and hit Vegeta back just as hard, if not harder and Vegeta bruises.

Do you think Cell Jr is fooling around in that panel right there?
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Jul 20 2014, 10:00 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. We got to see Cell Jr vs Vegeta and Trunks at least a little bit. Specifically the Vegeta fight, we see Vegeta land a hard punch on Cell Jr causing bruising and then we see Cell Jr angrily respond and hit Vegeta back just as hard, if not harder and Vegeta bruises.

Do you think Cell Jr is fooling around in that panel right there?
I don't think it's using it's full power, no. Again, Cell doesn't doubt its ability to kill Vegeta, and he doesn't exclude the ones fighting Vegeta and Trunks from the 'fooling around' comment.
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Jul 20 2014, 10:00 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. We got to see Cell Jr vs Vegeta and Trunks at least a little bit. Specifically the Vegeta fight, we see Vegeta land a hard punch on Cell Jr causing bruising and then we see Cell Jr angrily respond and hit Vegeta back just as hard, if not harder and Vegeta bruises.

Do you think Cell Jr is fooling around in that panel right there?
Not at all.

As a matter of fact, you just reiterated the point I made previously.
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And this is were the wide divide begins.

I see no reason to assume Cell Juniors are holding back against Vegeta and Trunks. Why do you guys think that?

Cells comments are to the others who were fooling around.

What that Cell Juniors going 100% against Vegeta and Trunks is conjecture?
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Basically me and P argue only this

Kamiccolo can't go down period : They would eventually have put him and even Vegeta and Trunks but its gonna take a while.


In this view, there's no inconsistency, no randomness, no nothing. 100% pure consistent logic. The fight could play out 10 times and it would end up like this 100% of the time.


You guys argue randomess : They can instantly put Kamiccolo down...but for some reason chose not to. They did chose just by coincidence to put 3 humans down, and a tired Goku down. So we have 5 guys that can be instantly put down, but 1 guy lucked out. So if we were to test this hypothesis it would come out only 20% accurate. The next time this happens, Tenshinhan may be the one standing, or tired Goku..who knows.


I mean the theory works but I just find it coincidental that the humans who were undoubtedly the weaker ones were in the worst condition and unconscious.


But anyway i'm beating a horse to death....there's nothing to really discuss after this.
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Jul 20 2014, 10:05 PM
And this is were the wide divide begins.

I see no reason to assume Cell Juniors are holding back against Vegeta and Trunks. Why do you guys think that?

Cells comments are to the others who were fooling around.
They were hurting them all the same. They don't have to be writhing on the floor in agony, y'know? Heck, even if I were to say that they were using their full power against Vegeta, the point with the humans still stands.
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