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| + Clearin | Jul 20 2014, 08:31 PM Post #316 |
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It's amazing how a guy who claimed he wrote the story simple enough for 8 year olds to understand managed a 21 page discussion about a single characters strength.
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Jul 20 2014, 08:32 PM Post #317 |
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They are all using a level powerful enough to put their opponent in the ground. That's the point. If they can't put them in the ground its because their full power isn't strong enough to do so. You guys can't get this of course you won't get the actual complicated issue of Piccolos conversation and the ramifications of it. Yeesh. |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:35 PM Post #318 |
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u r so smart |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 20 2014, 08:35 PM Post #319 |
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Izanagi!
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You need to stop with this air of superiority. You think you're better than everyone else at debating a fictional series. In reality, you're just a stubborn fool who feels the need to put down others if they refuse to conform to your views. Keep going, champ. Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 20 2014, 08:36 PM.
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Jul 20 2014, 08:36 PM Post #320 |
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So what does the Cell's Juniors "fooling around" line really mean? You could just interpret that as they simply didn't go for the kill. I prefer this view since I don't think Cell would mention Vegeta and Trunks barely fighting evenly if the Cell Juniors were not putting out all their effort. I mean Vegeta tells Piccolo something similar in the Android arc when he crushes Gero, Vegeta's like "quite fooling around and finish him already" ...something to that degree you could interpret Cell's line. And you could say they never went for the kill because BAM Gohan goes SSJ2 and they're all stunned before they have a chance to. Or you could interpret that as the Cell Juniors have a higher ability and they can actually show greater power. But that still does not fix anything on why the humans and Goku were trashed and Kamiccolo and Vegeta/Future Trunks were not. Because even if you take fooling around as 'non maximum effort / suppression, whatever' then the humans and Goku were still shown to be no match for this level. So again, the only way to nerf Kamiccolo and not make him relevant is to say that they treated Kamiccolo different than they treated the others. An like said, it's not very fair. |
| Victorious' fan made Dragon Ball Z Battle Power (Sentō-ryoku) list | |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:36 PM Post #321 |
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That's Mr Champion sir. |
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| SSJ | Jul 20 2014, 08:38 PM Post #322 |
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Anymore spam and I shut down this thread, and I'll warn everyone. |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:41 PM Post #323 |
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Picture this. Cell Junior wants a certain level of superiority. Let's say they want to be 1.33x superior. They are that superior to everyone until they can't be. Make sense? |
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| + Yusuke | Jul 20 2014, 08:45 PM Post #324 |
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No, that's totally conjecture to say something like that. If that were the case, I would argue that the Cell Jr's only put 1% of their power against Piccolo. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 20 2014, 08:48 PM Post #325 |
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Izanagi!
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So Piccolo fought against an opponent who Vegeta was having a tough time fighting equally, but there's still a fairly large gap between Piccolo and Vegeta? Got it Vegeta : 75 Cell Kid : 75 Trunks : 74 Piccolo 72.9 |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:48 PM Post #326 |
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Conjecture is an unproven hypothesis that appears to be true. So yes, it is conjecture in my mind. Thanks for agreeing. And no that wouldn't be the case. Cell Junior was not strong enough to put Piccolo down. That's the point. Something like this Snake. Cell Junior 100 Vegeta 100 Trunks 97 Piccolo 85 That's more than fair. Edited by p123, Jul 20 2014, 08:49 PM.
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| + Kyouks | Jul 20 2014, 08:50 PM Post #327 |
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Miles, gimme a response to post #272 on page 19. |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:51 PM Post #328 |
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Picture Piccolo Weighted vs Freeza 2nd Form FP being like Cell Jr vs Piccolo. Maybe not even that bad.
Edited by p123, Jul 20 2014, 08:53 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 20 2014, 08:52 PM Post #329 |
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Izanagi!
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Conjecture; an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information. Assuming the Cell Kid Piccolo was fighting was at the exact same level as the one Vegeta was fighting, yes? |
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Jul 20 2014, 08:54 PM Post #330 |
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjecture And yes let's assume Cell Jr was using FP. What then? Edited by p123, Jul 20 2014, 08:55 PM.
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