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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,129 Views)
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Well there was the whole Base Goku vs Vegeta in the Saiyan saga before he went Kaioken

And I don't think Piccolo/Krillin/Gohan/Tien were above 66% of Nappa
Edited by POOHEAD189, Jul 20 2014, 06:39 AM.
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Vegeta doesn't factor in Kaioken like that. Vegeta gets wrecked by KKx3 Goku and says that Goku has surpassed him. Which he clearly has. Vegeta has always been a Top Power is all that matters type. Which is how it should be. Forms don't matter.

Which is why even though Teen Gohan is weaker than Kid Gohan in Base and Ssj, his top power is superior. Prepare for destructive post for Buu Saga


Ssj2 Teen Gohan ( Enraged ) > Ssj2 Goku / Majin Vegeta > Ssj Kid Gohan ( Enraged ) > Ssj2 Teen Gohan


Rage boosts Gohan's normal power.

At the CG, Kid Gohan's normal power was Super Saiyan. So his enraged boost allows him to unlock Super Saiyan 2. Teen Gohan's normal power on the other hand is Super Saiyan 2. So rage boosting that level would be much higher.


Ssj2 Teen Gohan would kill Ssj Kid Gohan. Obviously. If Kid Gohan got enraged and attained his previous power against Cell he'd beat Teen Gohan's normal power. But if Teen Gohan got a rage on top of his power, he'd beat Kid Gohan.
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Jul 20 2014, 05:46 AM
Pyrus you just witnessed the most destructive post of all time on the issue. Perhaps you should read it one more time.
Don't tell me what to do. I decide how germane a post is for me. I make my own destiny and I won't follow a trend merely because you perpetuate it; that's partially what got the whole Neoseeker gang a bad rap, and I'm no follower.

Do you really want me to fight you on the matter?
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Just read it again. Tell me how Piccolo is some baffoon that can't tell if he's useful or not. Piccolo is as intuitive as it gets. His remarks on why not to follow Vegeta after 18 defeated him. His comments about Goku vs Buu, and a dozen other things showing Piccolo to not only be sharp but a divergent thinker who is very well aware of the unsaid.

Please do convince how Piccolo is bumbling baffoon that doesn't know his a*** from his head. You know it's his character, you know how smart Piccolo is. And with Kami's added wisdom he's even more sharp, just ask Imperfect Cell.

Now, after reading this post, be a good boy and go read my other post know that you understand what the character Piccolo is all about./
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Buncha Piccolo fanboys. Piccolo is unnecessary at this stage. Trunks is just being Trunks. Poor kid was so dumb he put on dead weight and didn't even notice. Piccolo is a slug.
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Jul 20 2014, 07:06 AM
Just read it again. Tell me how Piccolo is some baffoon that can't tell if he's useful or not. Piccolo is as intuitive as it gets. His remarks on why not to follow Vegeta after 18 defeated him. His comments about Goku vs Buu, and a dozen other things showing Piccolo to not only be sharp but a divergent thinker who is very well aware of the unsaid.

Please do convince how Piccolo is bumbling baffoon that doesn't know his a*** from his head. You know it's his character, you know how smart Piccolo is. And with Kami's added wisdom he's even more sharp, just ask Imperfect Cell.

Now, after reading this post, be a good boy and go read my other post know that you understand what the character Piccolo is all about./
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"Be a good boy"? Keep bringing it, probie.

You're pumping so much Viagra and HGH right now for no reason, assuming I've damned Piccolo to some fifth dimension circle of Hell when you've particularly no idea if I'm disagreeing with you or not. Don't go white knighting for Piccolo; he's a man and he can fight for himself.
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No way! I will white knight for Piccolo because he deserves it! Don't come at me with Saiyan > Namek brah...

Then I gotta hit you with DA TROOF


Goku and Gohan ( Achieve their Full Saiyan Potential ) > Vegeta and Trunks ( Could not reach their Full Saiyan Potential due to bad training techniques as well as being over trained for being in the Rosat too long) > Piccolo ( Super Namek Full Potential ) >>> Vegeta and Trunks Post ROsat 1 ( LOL BRAH THATS ALL YOU GOT YOU CANT TRANE GOOD EDIOT )


Vegeta and Trunks were nowhere near their full potential like Goku, Gohan and Piccolo. That's how Piccolo can be relevant to Vegeta and Turnks you poopie poop head.
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Piccolo only went into the RoSaT so that he doesn't look like a Tien-tier wuss. You think he wants to look like those piddling humans who can't even lay a finger on goddamn Freeza?

Game set match
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Jul 20 2014, 07:23 AM
No way! I will white knight for Piccolo because he deserves it! Don't come at me with Saiyan > Namek brah...

Then I gotta hit you with DA TROOF


Goku and Gohan ( Achieve their Full Saiyan Potential ) > Vegeta and Trunks ( Could not reach their Full Saiyan Potential due to bad training techniques as well as being over trained for being in the Rosat too long) > Piccolo ( Super Namek Full Potential ) >>> Vegeta and Trunks Post ROsat 1 ( LOL BRAH THATS ALL YOU GOT YOU CANT TRANE GOOD EDIOT )


Vegeta and Trunks were nowhere near their full potential like Goku, Gohan and Piccolo. That's how Piccolo can be relevant to Vegeta and Turnks you poopie poop head.
So I give Piccolo half of Vegeta's strength and you assume I'm saying he's below 1st ROASTBBQ Vegeta?
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Tien can kill Piccolo. Piccolo needs to train so Tien can't kill PIccolo. Piccolo doesn't like the thought of a mere human killing him. Reverse game set match!

No I'm not saying that, just putting that out there for someone who mentioned Saiyan Potential > Namek Potential earlier in the thread. You better than that.

What's the issue you have with placing Piccolo above 50% Goku KP?

You do know there is a gap in there where he can be over 50% Goku and still not holding his own against the Cell Junior. Right ? Right ? RIght?


Vegeta / Trunks ( Holding Their Own Against Cell Jr ) > Piccolo ( Getting butt whooped by Cell Junior ) > 50 % Goku

See?
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Jul 20 2014, 07:30 AM
Tien can kill Piccolo. Piccolo needs to train so Tien can't kill PIccolo. Piccolo doesn't like the thought of a mere human killing him. Reverse game set match!

No I'm not saying that, just putting that out there for someone who mentioned Saiyan Potential > Namek Potential earlier in the thread. You better than that.

What's the issue you have with placing Piccolo above 50% Goku KP?

You do know there is a gap in there where he can be over 50% Goku and still not holding his own against the Cell Junior. Right ? Right ? RIght?


Vegeta / Trunks ( Holding Their Own Against Cell Jr ) > Piccolo ( Getting butt whooped by Cell Junior ) > 50 % Goku

See?
No satisfactory reason to put him above half of Gokuu's power. He can be on or near that level and still be irrelevant and relevant.
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Piccolo is wearing weights and displaying a power that is probably already near 50% Goku.

When da weights come off, da powa go up.

What suggests that 50% Goku would be left standing against a Cell Jr? Piccolo was still in mid fight against Cell Jr, by the time Ssj2 comes out.

Only one level of power can really deal with that kind of assault for that long...

Tao Pai Pai vs Goku, Piccolo Weighted vs 2nd Form Freeza FP etc.

Magic number 85 brah
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What suggests that Krillin would be alive against a Cell kid?

Check your priorities and return when you've gotten stronger.
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Jul 20 2014, 07:46 AM
Piccolo is wearing weights and displaying a power that is probably already near 50% Goku.

When da weights come off, da powa go up.

What suggests that 50% Goku would be left standing against a Cell Jr? Piccolo was still in mid fight against Cell Jr, by the time Ssj2 comes out.

Only one level of power can really deal with that kind of assault for that long...

Tao Pai Pai vs Goku, Piccolo Weighted vs 2nd Form Freeza FP etc.

Magic number 85 brah
Weights didn't do jack against the androids.

The Cell Juniors were toying with everyone but Vegeta and Trunks. We never see how Goku at a higher level of power would've fared, so he's not all that comparable to Piccolo. The Cellies were putting in serious effort against Vegeta and Trunks given their facial expressions, while everyone else they smiled.
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Cell Juniors were holding back. Duh. Derp. Your point being?

Piccolo went from only rivaling 17 and 18 to being a slight bit superior to 17. Weights still count for something.

It doesn't work that way. Cell Juniors mission is to put them down. Whoever is standing has to be standing because they can deal with Cell Jr full power.
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