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The Nameless Namek's placement at Cell Games
Topic Started: Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM (16,120 Views)
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I like to take more of a philosophical approach to Vegeta's comment myself, after reading a response from Kyo-sama once. Can't be arsed to go dig it up, though. Busy on something...
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Jul 20 2014, 04:46 PM
Gohan- 10
Goku- 9
Vegeta-5
Trunks 4.5
Piccolo- 4

That's the condensed scale I have them on
I'm really new to this but I would have put it more like:

Gohan - 10
Goku - 8
Vegeta - 6
Piccolo - 5
Trunks - 4

And only because they make a big deal about how Piccolo is a "Super Namekian" even before he enters the RoSaT, plus looking at the Trunks vs. Cell and Piccolo vs. Cell fights.

I think Trunks respects/admires Piccolos power considering he's very powerful for a non-Saiyan, and so he's surprised/nervous when in the anime Piccolo comes out of the RoSaT even stronger and still says to Goku "It still isn't enough to beat Cell" and Goku is like "Yea not even close".

So with the above scale I would put Cell at 9. But again I've literally never tried to put these guys on a scale before so I'm probably way off. That's just my thoughts/reasoning after reading all of this.
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Well there's nothing wrong with Vegeta being 66% of Goku in the Buu arc really.
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The gap between Goku and Vegeta stayed the same as Vegeta pointed out, no matter how hard Vegeta trains.. Goku is still ahead of him. After 7 years, Vegeta still thinks nothing has changed. Gap is pretty huge though.
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Ok so what's wrong with Goku being 1.5x pre Majin Vegeta in equal forms? Nothting really.


Cell post Goku fight can still stomp a combination of Future Trunks, Vegeta, and Kamiccolo.

Vegeta is nowhere close to Goku at the Cell Games, he'd get toyed with.
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Jul 20 2014, 05:17 PM
Ok so what's wrong with Goku being 1.5x pre Majin Vegeta in equal forms? Nothting really.

Wasn't refering to you, babe.
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Jul 20 2014, 04:45 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 04:30 PM
Definitely not. Piccolo is a Super Namek who's potential far surpasses a mere percentage point of the Saiyans potential.
W-what? You must be joking. Saiyajins have the highest potential in this series.
Overall potential and max out potenti, the answer is defintely yes.

But Kamiccolo gains more power in his RoSaT trip than Vegeta or Future Trunks did...so it's possible Kamiccolo gains at higher speeds then they do for a while. The problem is Kamiccolo's wall is way before Vegeta's wall. Kamiccolo hits his wall after 1 year in the RoSaT, Vegeta hasnt even come close to hitting his after 2.
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Jul 20 2014, 04:43 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 04:39 PM
Before Goku and Piccolo's conversation. Trunks thinks...


Cell FP > 50% Goku = Goku's FP


After Goku and Piccolo's conversation Trunks thinks


Cell FP > Goku FP >> 50% Goku


Which is why even though he surpassed 50% Goku, he has absolutely no confidence in his power and thinks he has no chance against Cell.
Nah, nah, nah. If we assume that Piccolo doesn't know, then the entire meaning of the conversation completely changes from your personal interpretation.
But Kamiccolo does know.

That's why Future Trunks has a reaction of surprise when Goku made the comment.

Both Kamiccolo and Future Trunks know before any of them go in the RoSaT that FP Cell is > 50% Goku.

Kamiccolo post RoSaT says he doesnt have a shot, Future Trunks is surprised.
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Victorious
Jul 20 2014, 05:26 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 04:43 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 04:39 PM
Before Goku and Piccolo's conversation. Trunks thinks...


Cell FP > 50% Goku = Goku's FP


After Goku and Piccolo's conversation Trunks thinks


Cell FP > Goku FP >> 50% Goku


Which is why even though he surpassed 50% Goku, he has absolutely no confidence in his power and thinks he has no chance against Cell.
Nah, nah, nah. If we assume that Piccolo doesn't know, then the entire meaning of the conversation completely changes from your personal interpretation.
But Kamiccolo does know.

That's why Future Trunks has a reaction of surprise when Goku made the comment.

Both Kamiccolo and Future Trunks know before any of them go in the RoSaT that FP Cell is > 50% Goku.

Kamiccolo post RoSaT says he doesnt have a shot, Future Trunks is surprised.
Yes, but their view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku. Trunks thinks that Piccolo is quite near Goku's 'full power' and is surprised when they both agree that it's no good.

100% Goku > 50% Goku > Piccolo > SSJ Trunks (Post-1st RoSaT)
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Yes, but their view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku. Trunks thinks that Piccolo is quite near Goku's 'full power' and is surprised when they both agree that it's no good.

100% Goku > 50% Goku > Piccolo > SSJ Trunks (Post-1st RoSaT)


Who's view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku?

For Future Trunks yes, for Kamiccolo..no not by this time. And once Future Trunks hears the conversation he knows as well.
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Jul 20 2014, 05:35 PM
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Yes, but their view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku. Trunks thinks that Piccolo is quite near Goku's 'full power' and is surprised when they both agree that it's no good.

100% Goku > 50% Goku > Piccolo > SSJ Trunks (Post-1st RoSaT)


Who's view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku?

For Future Trunks yes, for Kamiccolo..no not by this time. And once Future Trunks hears the conversation he knows as well.
Let me guess, he 'figured it out in the RoSaT'? Neither of them knew about Goku's true power.
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I kinda want to put Piccolo near half Goku's power to make more sense of Piccolo's ability to keep up with a Cell Junior. Is that a little out there?
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Jul 20 2014, 05:37 PM
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Yes, but their view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku. Trunks thinks that Piccolo is quite near Goku's 'full power' and is surprised when they both agree that it's no good.

100% Goku > 50% Goku > Piccolo > SSJ Trunks (Post-1st RoSaT)


Who's view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku?

For Future Trunks yes, for Kamiccolo..no not by this time. And once Future Trunks hears the conversation he knows as well.
Let me guess, he 'figured it out in the RoSaT'? Neither of them knew about Goku's true power.
Well I would say he just gained a suspicion.

Clearly he was more informed than Future Trunks.

Kamicollo : Yes I'm strong but I'm no match for Cell
Future Trunks : Holy s***!!
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Jul 20 2014, 05:40 PM
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Jul 20 2014, 05:37 PM
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Yes, but their view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku. Trunks thinks that Piccolo is quite near Goku's 'full power' and is surprised when they both agree that it's no good.

100% Goku > 50% Goku > Piccolo > SSJ Trunks (Post-1st RoSaT)


Who's view is that 50% Goku is 100% Goku?

For Future Trunks yes, for Kamiccolo..no not by this time. And once Future Trunks hears the conversation he knows as well.
Let me guess, he 'figured it out in the RoSaT'? Neither of them knew about Goku's true power.
Well I would say he just gained a suspicion.

Clearly he was more informed that Future Trunks.

Kamicollo : Yes I'm strong but I'm no match for Cell
Future Trunks : Holy s***!!
'He just gained a suspicion'?

Good Lord. You do realise you and P have overlooked a much more believable possibility that supports your view, right?
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So what are you arguing for Snake? What's your position so I can tell you or not if I disagree with it.
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