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| Saberoph | Jul 19 2014, 06:13 PM Post #1 |
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I know the gap between Kakarrot and Ginyu and how he freaked out over Kakarrot's power up. However, wouldn't it make sense for the gaps to get larger as the series progresses? Because each villain is implied to make the last so weak that they could wipe their backside with their face. I know a disgusting comparison, but you get my point. The only exception I see to this is Cell, because The Namek can't tell if Majin Vegeta is stronger than Cell Games Gohan or not. It looks like the large stated increases were saved for Gotenks and a heavily and pretty much stated large increase for Zeta Sword Gohan. So, I return to my question... wouldn't it make sense for the gaps to get larger as the series progresses? |
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Jul 19 2014, 06:17 PM Post #2 |
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I wouldn't say necessarily larger, but imagine if you had a list where you had something like Goku 180 Ginyu 120. People would cry bloat city. Dragonball has always been ridiculous bloat. As you can see by the author's preference, he has the numbers getting out of hand really quickly. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jul 19 2014, 07:46 PM Post #3 |
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I don't see why they need to get larger. The difference between 120,000 and 180,000 is the same difference between 120,000,000 and 180,000,000. The disadvantage should be the same also. |
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Jul 19 2014, 07:59 PM Post #4 |
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No I think he means seeing those kinds of gaps in other parts of the series. |
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Jul 20 2014, 05:08 PM Post #5 |
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Generally Super Villains bring in huge bloat. There's gradual gains and bloat and then the Super Villain's arrival bring in huge apocalyptic type bloat. We see this with Piccolo Daimao and Freeza, and it probably happens in the case of Cell and Buu as well. The entirely to the Cell saga is filled with huge stomp fights, the Cell saga is filled with like 30 stomp fights and about 3-4 close fights. Edited by Victorious, Jul 20 2014, 05:09 PM.
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| Saberoph | Jul 21 2014, 10:54 PM Post #6 |
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What I mean is... it's implied that the gaps in the arcs after Frieza that the gaps get larger with each arc and the fact that there's more stomps help this implication, so wouldn't it make sense for the gaps to get larger as the series progresses? The reason I ask this is because of the following. Cyborg/Boo Arc: No. 18 stomps Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo and Vegeta is said to be stronger than Kakarrot and Piccolo is around Kakarrot's power, you also have 18 stating that she isn't being serious and isn't using her full power. Later you have said and shown that 17 is stronger and he fights evenly with The Nameless Namek, which both of them get stomped by Cell and even The Namek's Light Grenade does nothing to him. No. 16 steps in and is said to be equal to that same Cell, then Cell absorbs 18 and is able to stomp 16. Super Vegeta stomps that same Cell and even stomps him after he powers up, and even uses Vegeta's own Galick Gun against him and Vegeta tanks it. Then Imperfect Cell absorbs 18 and is able to stomp that same Vegeta even worse than the past Cell was stomped. Then after Gohan and Kakarrot leave the ROSAT Kakarrot powers to 50% and everyone at the lookout craps themselves... even Trunks who was able to Transform to a higher power than what Vegeta had and. Then at the Cell Games Vegeta is more than confident that he can beat Cell thinking Kakarrot was at Full Power earlier, then craps himself when Kakarrot does go Full Power. Gohan thinks his Father isn't impressive in the slightest until the Instantaneous Movement Kamehameha was used, but Gohan still thought his father was holding back and we know Gohan was comparing his father to himself, so if Gohan isn't impressed with his father then Gohan should be able to beat his father judging by his words and actions, then you have Cell going full speed against that Gohan and when Gohan goes SS2 Cell goes full power and everyone who's watching craps themselves, then you have Gohan stomping Cell worse than Cell stomped Gohan's previous SS and Super Vegeta. Boo Arc: Gohan, Goten and Trunks are all around the same power, before the Budokai begins the No SS Rule is made and all the Base Saiyans are very confident in winning... even knowing that The Namek and No. 18 will also be fighting too. On Babidi's ship Kaioshin is worried about Vegeta fighting alone and is shocked on easy Vegeta is winning, then Kaioshin thinks teaming up on Yakon is the only way to win. Base Kakarrot proves him wrong and does very well and yet Yakon tears part of his Gi, Kakarrot is still more than confident and Yakon can't touch him... even without any light Kakarrot is confident and dodges everything that's thrown at him. Kakarrot goes SS to show Yakon that if he needed a source of light he has one. Vegeta goes Majin and is now equal to CG Gohan, but not enough to be 100% sure, but that's important to note because CG Kakarrot wasn't impressive to CG Gohan. Then Gohan trains with the Zeta Sword and Gohan at least surpasses the initial SS power needed to hold up and swing the Sword it's self, because if Gohan needs SS to even swing it around, then his Base isn't strong enough to swing it with that much ease. Gohan goes from having problems swinging the Zeta Sword around in SS to being able to twirl it around and throw it up in the air with one hand without breaking a sweat in Base, where he was sweating a lot in SS. Then you have Post ROSAT Base Gotenks said to have a chance, whis is implying Post ROSAT Base Gotenks to be stronger than SS3 Kakarrot. That's why I feel the gaps with each arc are larger than the last, because there are more stomps and we see Person 1 tanking amp attacks from Person who was shown to be able to do the same with Person 3 who is the strongest Super Saiyan, but only a few panels later Person 3 is now able to tank amp attacks from Person 1. It makes no sense for the gaps to remain the same when we see the gaps being larger and with how people are able to stomp like they do and tank amp attacks like they do, because look at this... 1. No. 18 is able to tank Vegeta's Big Bank Attack and later says she isn't using her Full Power. 2. No. 17 is stated to be stronger than 18 and The Namek is equal to 17, yet Cell is able to tank an amp attack from him with ease. 3. Super Vegeta is able to tank the Galick Gun from someone one form ago was able to tank an amp attack from at the time the strongest stated hero. 4. Cell is able to tank and survive Vegeta's Final Flash, yet wounded but later we see had he powered up even a little wouldn't have been hurt. 5. SS2 Gohan is able to tank and push back all of Cell's attacks, who is more powered up than the same Cell who made Vegeta look like nothing and was able to force Super Vegeta back to Base and knock him out all in one hit. Edited by Saberoph, Jul 22 2014, 02:39 AM.
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