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22nd Budokai Breakdown
Topic Started: Jul 19 2014, 04:13 AM (3,048 Views)
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Krillen was losing the H2H. He had to resort to Zanzouken to get the advantage and even then he couldn't land anything on Chaozu besides the initial surprise hit.
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Chiautzu was flying, thus Krillin not hitting him.
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Chaozu hadn't started flying yet and was blocking all of Krillen punches. Krillen only landed one punch which was based on after image.
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Krillin did H2H better against Chiautzu before he flew away. Re-read that part.
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About Tenshinhan and Roshi.

If Roshi is as strong as Tenshinhan's full power, all of Roshi's statements about Goku are lies. He doesn't even say 'surpassed', he says 'vanished'. That's a pretty big difference.
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I already have. Krillen gets surprised by by Chaozus speed gets hit once avoids and tries to hit Chaozu and can't. Decides to use after image lands one blow and uses that momentum to press Chaozu who is able to block all his punches.

When was Krillen doing better? With the after image? That's a special technique he was able to hit General Blue with that technique.
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p, how much stronger do you think Tien was over Yamcha when he broke his leg?
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Right.

I've been reading the fight. Chiautzu attacks surprisingly fast (same as Vegeta attacked initially against Recoome), hits Krillin. Chiautzu tries to headbutt him, but Krillin escapes from it. As soon as Krillin attacks , Chiautzu gets shocked how fast he was, and Krillin hits him with a full nelson.

Lets say Krillin used Afterimage technique. After that, Krillin began attacking Chiautzu head on, Chiautzu goes like "Oh shet, I'm losing, guess I go fly above" .
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Tien looks like Cell vs Goku or Vegeta vs Zadbon for his first increase. He seems far higher when he kos Yamcha. Two shots him.
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p123
Jul 20 2014, 06:05 PM
Krillen was losing the H2H. He had to resort to Zanzouken to get the advantage and even then he couldn't land anything on Chaozu besides the initial surprise hit.
I'm pretty sure Krillin blitzed him. The afterimage (is that the zanzoken?) shows a actual image of the user. Krillin had speed dashes when he disappeared. And the reaction from the announcer(?) was that he vanished not that he made an afterimage. I say Krillin upped his speed which makes Chaiotzu initial attack due to his unusual movement rather than his speed.
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After image is a technique that allows you to tap into some sort of hyper speed. Its kind of like Kaioken like Wolf Fang Fist as crazy as that sounds.

Krillen pulling it off against General Blue suggests this as well.

Chaozu never really looked weaker. 95% tops imo.
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Jul 21 2014, 10:35 AM
Chaozu never really looked weaker. 95% tops imo.
If he could fight Krillin, he would've. He wouldn't have gone into chi firing so soon.
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Jul 21 2014, 10:35 AM
After image is a technique that allows you to tap into some sort of hyper speed. Its kind of like Kaioken like Wolf Fang Fist as crazy as that sounds.

Krillen pulling it off against General Blue suggests this as well.

Chaozu never really looked weaker. 95% tops imo.
The whole point of the afterimage is to leave an image in the first place not disappear completely. If Krillin had used the afterimage then someone would've noted it. Krillin using AI against Blue actually left an image behind unlike when he used it against Chiaotzu.
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Either way Krillen used super speed and Chaozu lost his marbles. Chaozu flew up into the sky because he was almost going to get pushed out. Why not use your superior advantage when you are losing?
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Jul 21 2014, 01:50 PM
Either way Krillen used super speed and Chaozu lost his marbles. Chaozu flew up into the sky because he was almost going to get pushed out. Why not use your superior advantage when you are losing?
I just feel like there needs to be a larger gap.
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