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22nd Budokai Breakdown
Topic Started: Jul 19 2014, 04:13 AM (3,055 Views)
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Chaozu should be able to handle Tao Pai Pai quite easily. If they are only just beginning to think that Goku can take him, well then Goku may not be as strong as we are lead to believe.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:24 PM
Chaozu should be able to handle Tao Pai Pai quite easily. If they are only just beginning to think that Goku can take him, well then Goku may not be as strong as we are lead to believe.
Should he? Are you sure? I'm not sure I agree with that, considering even Tenshinhan held Tao in high regard.
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I think Tao is fodder compared to Crane hermit fighters. I don't think Tao would handle Krillin pretty much the same as Chiautzu did.
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I think Tenshinhan is above Tao (well, yeah, he should be). Chaozu's feats were firing the Dodonpa over and over, and his telekinesis. Without that, he's weaksauce.
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Well considering that King Chappa is supposed to give Goku all he could handle, I'd think even King Chappa is above Tao Pai Pai.

Chaozu's Super Dodonpa seems to be the strongest amplification at this point of the series. Kikoho comes later but


Super Dodonpa > Dodonpa = Kamehameha


Chaozu > King Chappa > Tao Pai Pai
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Jul 19 2014, 06:36 PM
Well considering that King Chappa is supposed to give Goku all he could handle, I'd think even King Chappa is above Tao Pai Pai.
Why? Roshi and the others didn't know Goku had taken care of Tao.

I don't even think Chaozu is above Chapa-o honestly.

Chaozu is regarded highly because he has amazing chi control and telekinesis powers. He's not that good of a fighter.
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Chaozu is about as strong as Yamcha and Krillen though.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:40 PM
Chaozu is about as strong as Yamcha and Krillen though.
Only because of what I said. In pure power, he is way below.
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p123
Jul 19 2014, 06:40 PM
Chaozu is about as strong as Yamcha and Krillen though.
So he's below Match-Level Goku then?

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Chapa is easily above Tao. It doesn't matter if they knew about Tao or not, because they only mention him because of his status as Shin's brother rather than his strength.

Roshi saw Goku beat fight Gohan right? Considering the fact that Goku become stronger and Chapa would still be a tough opponent for Goku , I think Chapa > Gohan > Tao.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:47 PM
Chapa is easily above Tao. It doesn't matter if they knew about Tao or not, because they only mention him because of his status as Shin's brother rather than his strength.

Roshi saw Goku beat fight Gohan right? Considering the fact that Goku become stronger and Chapa would still be a tough opponent for Goku , I think Chapa > Gohan > Tao.
Toshiba had no idea that Tao had been bested by Goku until the 22nd Budokai, so any comparison before then wouldn't include Tao. He was still the Brother if the Crane Hermit and respected for his strength. Just look at Roshi's reaction when he finds out.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 19 2014, 06:51 PM.
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I don't know. Chaozu and Krillen were fighting pretty evenly in their fight.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:50 PM
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Jul 19 2014, 06:47 PM
Chapa is easily above Tao. It doesn't matter if they knew about Tao or not, because they only mention him because of his status as Shin's brother rather than his strength.

Roshi saw Goku beat fight Gohan right? Considering the fact that Goku become stronger and Chapa would still be a tough opponent for Goku , I think Chapa > Gohan > Tao.
Toshiba had no idea that Tao had been bested by Goku until the 22nd Budokai, so any comparison before then wouldn't include Tao.

Thats why I said "It doesn't matter if they knew about Tao getting beat by Goku or not" . Because Tao isn't really a relevant fighter anymore due strength.

Even when Goku is fighting on a higher level, Shin comes up later that Goku defeating Tao is true.

Chapter: 127, P13.1-2
Tsuru-sennin: “H-he’s outrageous…He just might be good enough to have defeated Tao Pai Pai…”

I think his status is relevant , rather than his strength.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:51 PM
I don't know. Chaozu and Krillen were fighting pretty evenly in their fight.
Chaozu kept Krillin pinned down with Dodonpas and his telekinesis. Once Krillin got past those, he took Chaozu out without many problems.

Alex - 'He just might have been good enough' implies that Tao still is somewhat relevant.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 19 2014, 06:54 PM.
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I'm not denying that he is irrelevant, my friend. I'm just saying he is relevant due his status instead of his strength.

Unless you think Goku Match level ~ Tao Pai Pai
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