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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 17 2014, 02:34 AM (999 Views) | |
| * Ketchup Revenge | Jul 17 2014, 02:34 AM Post #1 |
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For those of you who are unaware, the US is the only developed country in the world that still does not provide Universal Health Care to its citizens. Recently, a 20 year old US man posted his medical bill online (on Reddit) for the whole world to see, and folks around the world became exposed to how outrageously expensive that health care costs are in the US, and how outrageous the charges are for the items they use. Healthcare in the US is ridiculous, and they charge for things like using the room and even toiletries. The young man went in for a routine tonsillectomy, and was charged over $55,000 by the hospital, which outlined all his charges on the bill. The Insurance company paid almost $44,000, still leaving the 20 year old with over $11,000 that still needs to get paid back.    I live in the US and have been exposed to this first hand. Most people would rather ignore their symptoms and deal with them on their own than continually see a doctor, because the charges are so out of this world. I myself have been guilty of simply not going to see doctors because of the cost being too high. Just to walk into an Emergency room in the US (without insurance) costs over $500. That's before you even see a doctor. Meanwhile, illegal citizens don't need to pay a dime in the US for their healthcare. What are your thoughts on this dilemma in the United States? Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jul 17 2014, 02:39 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jul 17 2014, 03:00 AM Post #2 |
 
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I know this injustice very well, having gone to the emergency room quite a few times in the past decade. I've probably put over $10,000 of my own money into the system (my mother's insurance paid for the rest). I don't have very fond words for how ridiculous this is. Luckily I've never broken a bone or needed a major operation. Hm, I'll have to check and see what the policy is for getting shot or something when I'm on duty... |
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| tOMMY pICKLES | Jul 17 2014, 04:58 AM Post #3 |
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yah that does suck, im fine with paying more for stuff (especially beer and liquor) in exchange for our health care . |
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| * Crashbreaka | Jul 17 2014, 06:05 AM Post #4 |
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I'm not particularly clued up about US things, but it honestly sounds like the United States government (or whoever is in charge of that sorta thing) is failing to look out for their people. Which in my eyes is what they're there for in the first place. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Jul 17 2014, 06:09 AM Post #5 |
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thats insane, i agree with crash, there needs to be better health care options and the government is clearly not doing there job i havent been in the hospital too many times but im sure when i was it would have cost a couple grand for sure which is crazy |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jul 18 2014, 01:20 AM Post #6 |
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The United States government is more concerned with how they're perceived by the rest of the world than they are about their own (legal) citizens. Anyone that says anything different is a liar. This problem also extends beyond the healthcare system. I won't deny that everyone has a right to their income, but the problem is that these people who drive up the cost of living are not regulated by the government, therefore they can charge whatever the hell they want for their services or products, as long as people are willing to pay those amounts. The only people who are excluded from this type of "cost driving" are dairy farmers. They can't charge over a certain amount for their products, because milk is essential for children's diets. As for the healthcare issue, the doctors in the US usually get paid much more than doctors in other countries, as well as the nurses getting paid marginally more than nurses from other countries. There is no legal restrictions for charging for services in the US, this is the reason why they can simply willy nilly charge for whatever they want. |
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| + Pelador | Jul 18 2014, 01:49 AM Post #7 |
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I heard that US pharmaceutical prices are expensive because the European Union has legislation that means they can't charge as much in Europe. So that means they charge more in America to make up for it. |
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| * Crashbreaka | Jul 18 2014, 07:03 AM Post #8 |
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I kinda think that they're going completely the wrong way around then, because the US government doesn't have a very good reputation at all IMO. Maybe I've just grown up with that general vibe and it's only a (generally) city-wide opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more country-wide. It's odd that milk is considered compulsory, yet healthcare isn't. It's literally about a persons health lol. Edited by Crashbreaka, Jul 18 2014, 07:04 AM.
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Jul 18 2014, 12:55 PM Post #9 |
 
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I personally don't see any problem with these so called "expensive charges". After all they are the ones who are going to try to save your life, if your life is in a critical state. And it is not "wrong" to "charge" money for using a persons or an organisation's rooms, toilets etc.After all it is not yours and it is theirs.Doctors have the right to do so because their job is quite challenging and intense.It also due the nature of their job that they are payed more. It all depends on whether you care for your health or not. |
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| + Steve | Jul 18 2014, 01:08 PM Post #10 |
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Wow 55k that's f***ing barbaric. Really though? How on earth does it cos that much? I bet if you went through the costs of all the medicine used it wouldn't be anything close to that at all then obviously some goes to the doctors and nurses involved but for such a minor procedure that's just ridiculous. I feel sorry for any of you who take ill over there, you're either going bankrupt or dying  But really though people going hungry everywhere and doctors get paid so much, the whole healthcare system just sounds like an insurance scam. And it probably is but at least be less freaking obvious about it. I wonder if they harvest organs from homeless people now too there's money in that, nobody cares about homeless people anyway or legal citizens. Why aren't people made of money? That's the thought pattern I picture them having. |
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| + Pelador | Jul 18 2014, 01:13 PM Post #11 |
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It is definitely wrong to charge people money for life saving treatment. Pay up or die basically. You wouldn't expect to pay for the fire service or the police. Especially with the amount of poverty in America. That's not fair at all. No they are providing the public with an essential service. So it should come out of taxes. Just like the police and fire services. Education too actually. I mean education isn't even as important as healthcare and that's free. And stop using quotation marks for no reason. You've been told off about that before. Edited by Pelador, Jul 18 2014, 01:14 PM.
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| + Steve | Jul 18 2014, 01:41 PM Post #12 |
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Yeah it is ridiculous and unfair medical bills look like they should be for people in like California where they're all rich and celebrities, how the f*** do low class families pay for it? Families that can barely afford a crappy car. And it's the lower class people who run the country too rich people do crap all, without lower class people the rich would be nothing and they get rewarded with these ridiculous costs for everything 'cause money. This kind of s*** is just asking for a revolution one day and honestly I'd be glad if the so called little people took over the government and stopped it being a mess. Or maybe China could take over who knows, almost every other situation would be better. I find it hilarious when people act like rich people "deserve" to be able to pay for healthcare and whatnot, dumb talentless celebrities that got fame for a sex tape or something deserve all that money over factory workers etc? Screw that s***. Course some rich people are or were hard working but it doesn't mean other people should just be left to die or go homeless. Like why not just turn them in to slaves or something? Might as well be. |
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Jul 18 2014, 02:04 PM Post #13 |
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I am sorry but I dont see nothing wrong with high charges.They are charged high because 1.US uses latest state of the art technology and to provide quality service. 2.Yes,in developing countries they charge less because they do not have access to latest technology and methodologies.Also most of the people in developing countries go to developed countries like US etc for major or critical treatment because they provide good quality of service and use latest technology and methodologies. 3.Like I told in my previous post it is not "wrong" to "charge" high.It is not wrong because your not forced into it.It is also not "wrong" because its business. 4.They charge high because they need to maintain the latest devices anf technology in use.Not all money goes to the doctors. It gets divided into serval streams such as research, maintenance, development etc. 5.Yes doctors are paid more because of the nature of their job.A doctor can be sued if he doesn't provide the correct and accurate prescription. The doctor's job is also one of the most hardest and intense field. @quotations Do you presume to dictate duties to me? Are you denying my right to choose the style I wish to write/type? Who are you to decide what type of style I use to express my thoughts or opinions? You have the choice of not reading my posts if you think it is hard to read. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 18 2014, 02:11 PM Post #14 |
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Y'know, I didn't realise that there was such a gap in quality of treatment between the UK and US. I don't have any complaints; any time I've been to a hospital, I've had good quality treatment without being slapped in the face with crippling bills. In my opinion, the cost of healthcare in the US is a result of the fear of 'Big Government', that would interfere with people's freedoms by providing healthcare for everyone without insanely high bills.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 18 2014, 02:12 PM.
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| + Pelador | Jul 18 2014, 02:17 PM Post #15 |
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The UK uses the latest technology and treatments. It also has some of the highest paid doctors in the world. It's still free to use for everyone. In fact so are most top health care services around the world. America and Japan are probably the only two 1st world countries who still charge for basic health care needs. Pharmaceuticals are a business. Healthcare is a basic service provided by the government for the people. It's not a business. When you get sick it's the government's job to keep you healthy so that you can carry on working for the state and paying taxes. |
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