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| Goku's zenkais - en route of Namek | |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:01 AM Post #16 |
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I said he discovered the specifics. I don't think he just discovered zenkais now. It would make Goku pretty stupid since all the beatdowns he recieved in Dragon Ball. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2014, 02:02 AM Post #17 |
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Well, he certainly doesn't mention it until this point. |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:05 AM Post #18 |
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Well if Krillin knows about Goku's own zenkais Goku himself should. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 21 2014, 02:05 AM Post #19 |
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Alright...Now right here I can't see any interpretation other than "even though this training is crazy, Goku realized that he gets zenkais from it." The word "characteristic" is specifically referring to the "strength increasing when they overcome death" thing, and the "However, though this training is outrageous..." part is pretty clearly setting up a reason as to why going through said training is actually beneficial, imo (which is getting zenkais). Meh, all I have to say, it's not particularly important. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2014, 02:07 AM Post #20 |
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Izanagi!
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Didn't Krillin find out about them on Namek? Even so, Goku probably wasn't present so he wouldn't know. |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:10 AM Post #21 |
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On Namek he mentions Goku's power went up every time he had a tough battle and that's why Vegeta's power has increased. |
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| SSJ | Jul 21 2014, 02:11 AM Post #22 |
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Vic are you serious? What else could "Saiyan characteristics" be referring to? The only special abilities that Saiyans have are Oozaru and Zenkais. Arguably higher durability too. So out of any of those, what is that statement talking about? |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2014, 02:11 AM Post #23 |
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Izanagi!
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So, Goku wasn't there, right? He found out about zenkais on his,way to Namek, as Kyooks has shown. |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:13 AM Post #24 |
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I said that characteristic could means a trait or detail. Vegeta said they can't self inflict injuries and get zenkais. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Jul 21 2014, 02:14 AM Post #25 |
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But the narrator seems to be implying the opposite and Cell's zenkai also seems to go against Vegeta's statement. |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:15 AM Post #26 |
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Krillin noticed Goku's zenkais in Dragon Ball. How could Goku not be there for his own zenkais to be noticed? YOu're saying that Krillin would notice Goku's zenkais and Goku wouldnt. I think that's stupid. |
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Jul 21 2014, 02:17 AM Post #27 |
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Cell's zenkais don't work the same IMO. Super Saiyans and Super Saiyan tiers don't seem to get them, but he gets them. I don't think the same rules apply to Cell. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2014, 02:18 AM Post #28 |
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Izanagi!
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Krillin connects the dots once he gets an explanation of what zenkais are. Goku trains and figures out what zenkais are by recovering from his wounds. Goku was there to notice, but whenever he got a zenkais, something was going on. Krillin simply remembered the power jumps. Goku got them, but didn't understand them. He realizes on the ship that he gets a boost when he recovers from near-death. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 21 2014, 02:21 AM Post #29 |
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Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P12.1-2 Goku: “Vegeta, you defeat the other guy [Jheese]. You made a full recovery after almost dying, so your power should have greatly increased. He’s no longer an opponent you can’t beat…” Vegeta: “Chih…So you knew, huh?” |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Jul 21 2014, 02:22 AM Post #30 |
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I don't really recall Super Saiyan tiers being capable of having zenkai because by the time their base (maybe) got in Super Saiyan tier they were already SSJs. Although his zenkais do work in an odd way. |
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