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Goku's zenkais - en route of Namek
Topic Started: Jul 16 2014, 11:09 PM (1,901 Views)
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How many zenkais do you think Goku achieved on his trip to Namek? I say at least one, but what else could happen?
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I really think he got a pretty big one during his recovery from fighting with Vegeta. He was beaten to near death.

All others after that were fairly reasonable up until his one that he received when his body got beaten by Gohan and Krillin, which was massive. I think all his training during his pre-Namek arrival kind of pent up his abilities until then.
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None, it's said by Vegeta that if a fighter damages himself it doesn't work.
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Victorious
Jul 21 2014, 12:42 AM
None, it's said by Vegeta that if a fighter damages himself it doesn't work.
He did? My memory's a little rusty but can you show me a quote or something?
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Chapter: 270 (DBZ 76), P8.3-4
Context: Narrator commenting on Goku’s increasing strength.
Narrator: “Goku had continued this insane pattern of pushing his body and ki to the brink of death, then refreshing himself again by eating a senzu. The 7 senzu he received from Lord Karin have already fallen to only 3…However, though this training is outrageous, perhaps Goku has somehow realized the Saiyan characteristic of their strength increasing when they overcome death…”
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Jul 21 2014, 01:14 AM
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Jul 21 2014, 12:42 AM
None, it's said by Vegeta that if a fighter damages himself it doesn't work.
He did? My memory's a little rusty but can you show me a quote or something?
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Jul 21 2014, 01:18 AM
Chapter: 270 (DBZ 76), P8.3-4
Context: Narrator commenting on Goku’s increasing strength.
Narrator: “Goku had continued this insane pattern of pushing his body and ki to the brink of death, then refreshing himself again by eating a senzu. The 7 senzu he received from Lord Karin have already fallen to only 3…However, though this training is outrageous, perhaps Goku has somehow realized the Saiyan characteristic of their strength increasing when they overcome death…”
YOu could take that quote to mean that Goku is realizing a lack of zenkai effect in the ship if this is the first time he's beaten himself up to that point at least.
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Can't be the first time, he's used 4 senzu.
Could just be that pushing yourself to near death via training is different. Not like Goku's blasting himself then eating a bean.
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WEll first instance.

He's like, "hey this is pretty consistent, If I beat myself up I don't get zenkai power ups."

IMO that's what the narrator means by "somehow realized the Saiyan characteristic"
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Not sure what you're saying there. "...somehow realized the Saiyan characteristic..." means he discovered zenkais.
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'The training is outrageous, but Goku's doing it because he realised that he can get zenkais from doing so' is basically what I read.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 21 2014, 01:58 AM.
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Or discovered the details and specifics.
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So let me clarify...you think Goku got no zenkais, correct?
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Not on the ship, nope.
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Jul 21 2014, 01:58 AM
Or discovered the details and specifics.


So he discovered zenkais by not getting them?
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