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Hyper Shadow Vs Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 12:47 AM (2,287 Views)
Goku Black	Jul 15 2014, 12:47 AM Post #1
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+ miguelnuva	Jul 21 2014, 04:05 AM Post #16
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	King Kakarot Jul 21 2014, 01:03 AM miguelnuva Jul 21 2014, 12:56 AM King Kakarot Jul 20 2014, 01:23 PM miguelnuva Jul 20 2014, 10:03 AM Ssj3vegito96 Jul 19 2014, 03:38 PM Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting. Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from No he isn't. Hercule was following the ssj4 vs Omega. DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP He also survived a kick from him,cell and a blast from kid buu as well Does Gag Character ring a bell to you? or are you going to base your entire "argument" on a gag character ability to survive things he shouldn't have rofl Try again No human should be able to keep track of the z fighters anytime they fight Krillin and roshi had a fight in .2 of a second all the way back in DB Normal people were following Goten and Trunks who were Cell games level SSJs, people followed Goku and Cell. Paris was following Goten and Baby, Bulma and Chi-Chi followed the SSJ4s vs Omega. Just because he is a gag character doesn't stop him from being able to follow the fight.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 21 2014, 04:30 AM Post #17
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	It's well established throughout the series all the way to the end of the namek saga that normal humans cannot see them fighting. Goten and trunks being seen while fighting is an inconsistency. Goku vs cell is too. Hercule shouldn't be taken into account. He survives attacks from people like cell and buu. Same deal with speed. IMO there's more evidence that normal people can't see them than there is for normal people being able to see them
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+ miguelnuva	Jul 21 2014, 05:17 AM Post #18
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Ssj3vegito96 Jul 21 2014, 04:30 AM It's well established throughout the series all the way to the end of the namek saga that normal humans cannot see them fighting. Goten and trunks being seen while fighting is an inconsistency. Goku vs cell is too. Hercule shouldn't be taken into account. He survives attacks from people like cell and buu. Same deal with speed. IMO there's more evidence that normal people can't see them than there is for normal people being able to see them The entire DBZ is inconsistent. There's also Bulma and Chi-Chi watching SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta. DBZ has just about too fast fights as they do not too fast fights.There is also Goku and Uub being seen. Also normal people have noticed the big booms DBZ characters make when they fight, that implies the sound barrier is not being broken when we lnow their faster then sound. Edited by miguelnuva, Jul 21 2014, 05:18 AM.
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Rogafufuken	Jul 21 2014, 05:37 AM Post #19
Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #10,933 Joined: February 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z/Kai, and Nisekoi What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z, and One Piece	miguelnuva Jul 21 2014, 04:05 AM King Kakarot Jul 21 2014, 01:03 AM miguelnuva Jul 21 2014, 12:56 AM King Kakarot Jul 20 2014, 01:23 PM miguelnuva Jul 20 2014, 10:03 AM Ssj3vegito96 Jul 19 2014, 03:38 PM Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting. Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from No he isn't. Hercule was following the ssj4 vs Omega. DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP He also survived a kick from him,cell and a blast from kid buu as well Does Gag Character ring a bell to you? or are you going to base your entire "argument" on a gag character ability to survive things he shouldn't have rofl Try again No human should be able to keep track of the z fighters anytime they fight Krillin and roshi had a fight in .2 of a second all the way back in DB Normal people were following Goten and Trunks who were Cell games level SSJs, people followed Goku and Cell. Paris was following Goten and Baby, Bulma and Chi-Chi followed the SSJ4s vs Omega. Just because he is a gag character doesn't stop him from being able to follow the fight. Most often though, they can't be seen by humans, even people not much weaker than them, like Kami with Goku vs Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai for example. SSJ4 Vegeta is MFTL though, since in the anime SSJ Goku on Namek and Freeza, and GT follows the anime. Edited by Rogafufuken, Jul 21 2014, 05:39 AM.



TheACE	Jul 21 2014, 01:20 PM Post #20
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	I'm still having the weirdest time about this. Shadow is strong and rediculpusly powerful, but I don't see him overtaking Super Saiyan Four Vegeta's durability. Unless Vegeta gives him a second to go pick up rings to maintain his Super form. Which seem to run at a rate of 1 ring every other second. So if Shadow can't end it in (Let's see, sonic 3 hyper sonic had 100 rings and the super emeralds to transform, average of 1 ring a second) a minute forty, then Veggie's just gonna final shine him to death.
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+ Pyrus	Jul 21 2014, 01:34 PM Post #21
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Rogafufuken Jul 21 2014, 05:37 AM miguelnuva Jul 21 2014, 04:05 AM King Kakarot Jul 21 2014, 01:03 AM miguelnuva Jul 21 2014, 12:56 AM King Kakarot Jul 20 2014, 01:23 PM miguelnuva Jul 20 2014, 10:03 AM Ssj3vegito96 Jul 19 2014, 03:38 PM Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting. Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from No he isn't. Hercule was following the ssj4 vs Omega. DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP He also survived a kick from him,cell and a blast from kid buu as well Does Gag Character ring a bell to you? or are you going to base your entire "argument" on a gag character ability to survive things he shouldn't have rofl Try again No human should be able to keep track of the z fighters anytime they fight Krillin and roshi had a fight in .2 of a second all the way back in DB Normal people were following Goten and Trunks who were Cell games level SSJs, people followed Goku and Cell. Paris was following Goten and Baby, Bulma and Chi-Chi followed the SSJ4s vs Omega. Just because he is a gag character doesn't stop him from being able to follow the fight. Most often though, they can't be seen by humans, even people not much weaker than them, like Kami with Goku vs Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai for example. SSJ4 Vegeta is MFTL though, since in the anime SSJ Goku on Namek and Freeza, and GT follows the anime. The same problems that exist in the manga exist in the manga.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 21 2014, 02:04 PM Post #22
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	TheACE Jul 21 2014, 01:20 PM I'm still having the weirdest time about this. Shadow is strong and rediculpusly powerful, but I don't see him overtaking Super Saiyan Four Vegeta's durability. Unless Vegeta gives him a second to go pick up rings to maintain his Super form. Which seem to run at a rate of 1 ring every other second. So if Shadow can't end it in (Let's see, sonic 3 hyper sonic had 100 rings and the super emeralds to transform, average of 1 ring a second) a minute forty, then Veggie's just gonna final shine him to death. Vegeta's isn't tanking Chaos Spears with enough condensed force to hurt a multiversal god. He also isn't keeping up with someone who can travel at speeds allowing him to be 1/3 Omnipresent. Vegeta isn't gonna last more than 10 seconds. Furthermore, rings are a game mechanic designed to make Super forms not broken. In Sonic Advanced, Sonic's super form lasted a week with no ring collection. Even if video game Shadow were to lose, he'd still have to deal with Archie Super Shadow, who is far worse.
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Dankness Lava	Jul 21 2014, 02:33 PM Post #23
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jul 21 2014, 02:04 PM He also isn't keeping up with someone who can travel at speeds allowing him to be 1/3 Omnipresent. What the hell does this mean? How can you be 1/3 omnipresent?



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 21 2014, 03:04 PM Post #24
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Ben-Dan The Man Jul 21 2014, 02:33 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jul 21 2014, 02:04 PM He also isn't keeping up with someone who can travel at speeds allowing him to be 1/3 Omnipresent. What the hell does this mean? How can you be 1/3 omnipresent? Sonic, Shadow, and Silver had to be Omnipresent in past, present, and future if they wanted to even touch Solaris. In a sense Shadow is Omnipresent in the past, but only 1/3 Omnipresent with time.
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Dankness Lava	Jul 21 2014, 04:18 PM Post #25
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	I think I'm better off staying away from that, your explanation didn't help any, lol.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 21 2014, 06:00 PM Post #26
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Ben-Dan The Man Jul 21 2014, 04:18 PM I think I'm better off staying away from that, your explanation didn't help any, lol. Hmm, Shadow was merely omnipresent in 1 of the 3 timelines. Does that wording make more sense?
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 22 2014, 12:12 AM Post #27
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	What proves that? I was reading the wiki(yeah I know it's the wiki) and it doesn't say that. All it says is lightspeed
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Goddess Ultimecia	Jul 22 2014, 12:19 AM Post #28
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Ssj3vegito96 Jul 22 2014, 12:12 AM What proves that? I was reading the wiki(yeah I know it's the wiki) and it doesn't say that. All it says is lightspeed Wiki's tend to be inaccurate or must I bring up dbwiki? The wiki can claim he's only lightspeed but the game itself shows that he must be 1/3rd omnipresent in order to properly face the foe.
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TheACE	Jul 22 2014, 01:03 AM Post #29
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Goddess Ultimecia	Jul 22 2014, 01:16 AM Post #30
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	TheACE Jul 22 2014, 01:03 AM The f&ck does that even mean. He's everywhere a third of the time? That... That heavily implicates that he's just present. I... I don't think that can be quantified to speed. And I played Sonic Advance, that 4 minute boss fight did not take a mother f$cking week! It took 4 minutes! Besides, Omega Shenron and Mystic Super Buu have no problem reality warping just by existing, neither does Janemba. By that logic that puts Pan in the semi-cosmic category by default. It's one of those things where you're doing a disservice to yourself by trying to apply logic to this. It's not logical whatsoever nor is it supposed to be logical. And since when do Game Mechanics get factored into things like this?
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