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Hyper Shadow Vs Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 12:47 AM (2,285 Views)
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Shadow. The dude has taken on an transcendent, omnipresent, existence busting god in his Super form.
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In what universe? (Seriously, Archie comics universe right?) I didn't even know anyone could GO hyper anymore! And at that point all the Hyper Transformations (Via game canon anyway) did was increase you invulnerability more (somehow) a bit of a damage output increase and jacked your speed up. I'd say he'd max out at three to four times tougher than his Super Form. Still gonna give it to Vegeta. Super Saiyan four's time limit isn't nearly as crippling and the power boost is still disproportionately high for the lack of Drawbacks.
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Even in the video games, Shadow would win. The dude tangled with Solaris.
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I may be biased, and I haven't played Sonic 06 in years, and it was on the PS3 but I distinctly recall Black Doom being significantly more troublesome and threatening, and he was probably only planet Buster plus. Again, Sonic 06 suffered from "Sucky Game kills credibility" but I really haven't seen much destructive power from Shadow that puts him past a Super Saiyan Four.
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Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief
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Oh Archie Shadow probably would win, with some difficulty, on mad chaos force and ludicrous speed. Shade can go plad lol
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Jul 19 2014, 01:48 AM
I may be biased, and I haven't played Sonic 06 in years, and it was on the PS3 but I distinctly recall Black Doom being significantly more troublesome and threatening, and he was probably only planet Buster plus. Again, Sonic 06 suffered from "Sucky Game kills credibility" but I really haven't seen much destructive power from Shadow that puts him past a Super Saiyan Four.
You indeed don't remember. When Solaris was merely formed, he distorted all existence across space and time. Eggman even claims the dude can eat entire universes. Solaris is also Omnipresent with time, meaning he's one with the past, present, and future. Solaris makes DBZ look like ant sh** in comparison to VY Canis Majoris.
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Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief
Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting.
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Is there any legit GT comics. Collected all the dragonball and dragonball z? If any has send me an email please. English translation preferred
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Jul 19 2014, 03:38 PM
Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief
Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting.
Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from
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Jul 19 2014, 01:48 AM
I may be biased, and I haven't played Sonic 06 in years, and it was on the PS3 but I distinctly recall Black Doom being significantly more troublesome and threatening, and he was probably only planet Buster plus. Again, Sonic 06 suffered from "Sucky Game kills credibility" but I really haven't seen much destructive power from Shadow that puts him past a Super Saiyan Four.
You indeed don't remember. When Solaris was merely formed, he distorted all existence across space and time. Eggman even claims the dude can eat entire universes. Solaris is also Omnipresent with time, meaning he's one with the past, present, and future. Solaris makes DBZ look like ant sh** in comparison to VY Canis Majoris.
Wait didn't he say, "Dimensions?" And even so... He didn't DO anything. Again, maybe misplaced anti-nostalgia but other than existing he has no feats that put him on any level of destructive force. And the Hedgehogs haven't had much firepower in the first place in the games. Shadow is the only one linked close enough to the chaos force in game canon to do anything remotely impressive on that level. I'm still not seeing the speed, strength or durability (I distinctly remember just spamming the chaos lance and lightning dash as Sonic and shadow an finishing the whole boss battle in like 7 minutes flat)
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Jul 19 2014, 01:48 AM
I may be biased, and I haven't played Sonic 06 in years, and it was on the PS3 but I distinctly recall Black Doom being significantly more troublesome and threatening, and he was probably only planet Buster plus. Again, Sonic 06 suffered from "Sucky Game kills credibility" but I really haven't seen much destructive power from Shadow that puts him past a Super Saiyan Four.
You indeed don't remember. When Solaris was merely formed, he distorted all existence across space and time. Eggman even claims the dude can eat entire universes. Solaris is also Omnipresent with time, meaning he's one with the past, present, and future. Solaris makes DBZ look like ant sh** in comparison to VY Canis Majoris.
Wait didn't he say, "Dimensions?" And even so... He didn't DO anything. Again, maybe misplaced anti-nostalgia but other than existing he has no feats that put him on any level of destructive force. And the Hedgehogs haven't had much firepower in the first place in the games. Shadow is the only one linked close enough to the chaos force in game canon to do anything remotely impressive on that level. I'm still not seeing the speed, strength or durability (I distinctly remember just spamming the chaos lance and lightning dash as Sonic and shadow an finishing the whole boss battle in like 7 minutes flat)
A dimension is a universe. Secondly, he distorted all of existence by merely existing. That's pretty much Multiversal level destructive capacity right there. The Chaos Force is an Archie exclusive term BTW. Sonic, Silver, and Shadow were all moving so fast they were 1/3 Omnipresent with time. That was the only way to beat Solaris. The in-game battle is solely game mechanics, but the attacks these characters were using were strong enough to hurt a multiverse level god. Also the reason you don't see power on this level that often in the Sonic franchise is because the Super forms seem to give the user the necessary level of power they need in that moment. That's how they can beat a multiverse level god and still get the super knocked out of them(Sonic specifically) by Knuckles. There are other enemies that have pushed Sonic to use extraordinary power though. Alf-Lay-La-Wa-Lay-La, for example, destroyed the universe of the Arabian Nights, and Sonic beat him. He also restored it with the wave of his hand. The Time Eater also practically eliminated Sonic's universe, and it had to be restored by going through the various things he did throughout his many adventures.
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Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief
Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting.
Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from
No he isn't. Hercule was following the ssj4 vs Omega.
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Jul 19 2014, 03:38 PM
Vegeta here I think is MFTL. The wiki says Shadow is lightspeed. Vegeta is easily solar system+ busting in striking power and ki blasts and withstanding them. I don't know what shadow is capable of I just know that if this is Archie comics, then he's probably haxed beyond belief
Vegeta is not MFTL or Solar System busting.
Yes he is Gt follws the anime which has plenty of Ftl feats to pick and choose from
No he isn't. Hercule was following the ssj4 vs Omega.
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He also survived a kick from him,cell and a blast from kid buu as well

Does Gag Character ring a bell to you? or are you going to base your entire "argument" on a gag character ability to survive things he shouldn't have rofl

Try again

No human should be able to keep track of the z fighters anytime they fight

Krillin and roshi had a fight in .2 of a second all the way back in DB
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