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Mohammed Ali vs Ivan Draco
Topic Started: Jul 14 2014, 08:06 PM (1,095 Views)
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Real life top five boxer of all time Mohammed Ali vs Ivan Draco from the film Rocky 4.

Hard to tell because of the way that Rocky films are shot. Lots of close ups and not much of them moving around and being slick. However from the way that Draco beat Apollo Creed to death I'd say that he could also handle Ali. Just not nearly as easily.

Rocky 205

Draco 200

Ali 180.

Apollo Creed 170.


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I feel Ali would be able to keep outside of Drago's reach. Drago isn't able to keep his speed in late rounds. Ali can just keep poking Ivan to a KO in the last round.
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Drago's punch was at least 1,850psi wasn't it? Or whatever is used to punch measurement in boxing. That's a beast.
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True, but a demonic punch only hurts you if it hits you, and Ali was infamous for dodging EVERYTHING
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Not quite true even in his prime.



Ali's corner allegedly cheated by using illegal means to wake him up after the knockdown.


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Ivan Drago BREAKS him
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Creed was using a very similar style as Ali in his fight against Drago and was managing to dance around him until Drago gets his first punch in and starts wrecking Creed. I reckon Ali is much faster than Creed thus would get hit less and can take a punch much better considering how Ali was pounded for eight rounds straight by George Foreman (considered one of the best strikers of all time) to still beat him and also won a fight despite getting his jaw broken. Rocky pretty much just wore down Drago in his fight allowing him to win at the end, Muhammad Ali had amazing stamina and chin that would let him win after a long fight IMO.
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Jul 15 2014, 11:28 AM
Creed was using a very similar style as Ali in his fight against Drago and was managing to dance around him until Drago gets his first punch in and starts wrecking Creed. I reckon Ali is much faster than Creed thus would get hit less and can take a punch much better considering how Ali was pounded for eight rounds straight by George Foreman (considered one of the best strikers of all time) to still beat him and also won a fight despite getting his jaw broken. Rocky pretty much just wore down Drago in his fight allowing him to win at the end, Muhammad Ali had amazing stamina and chin that would let him win after a long fight IMO.
Rocky lost that fight in the end. Brain damage. :gokudance:

Dude should've had his head busted after the first punch. Correction: Drago made 2,150psi. That's equivalent to a force of 8,600 pounds apparently, which is more than four damn tons.[1] Accordingly, nobody has ever come anywhere close to that, at least not with proven scientific research.

Given Drago's fictional power, it seems very unlikely that Ali could withstand something like that given it is fiction vs reality. Even Ali should be going down after a couple of punches hit their mark.

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Yeah, I suppose that's true. Drago's power is crazy.
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Mohammed Ali wins.
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This will be like USSJ Trunks vs Perfect Cell. Ivan holds the power advantage, but Muhammed Ali will outspeed him and win in the end. Muhammed Ali wins.
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I don't see how Ali will win this. He can run circles around Drago all day, but he still has to hit him and do damage. Trunks gave up against Cell.
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It not that he only run circles. But also his reflexes and counterattacks can take on Ivan. I have done boxing for three years by myself, and for me speed> power. If you have problems hitting your opponent then soon or later you are toast in the ring. Unless if the opponent is not durable enough but Ali was very durable as well.
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It not that he only run circles. But also his reflexes and counterattacks can take on Ivan. I have done boxing for three years by myself, and for me speed> power. If you have problems hitting your opponent then soon or later you are toast in the ring. Unless if the opponent is not durable enough but Ali was very durable as well.
Ja, but durable enough to take a punch of such insane magnitude as Drago's? That's where my doubt is coming into play. Sooner or later, Ali will get hit, and once he does I sincerely don't think he'd get up from it in time, if it didn't send him into a coma.
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Why can't Ali rope a dope like with Foreman? I think Ali could pull it off.
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