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Naruto verse vs DB Verse
Topic Started: Jul 14 2014, 02:25 PM (9,076 Views)
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So we all know that DBZ verse would win but what about DB verse?

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Father Brofist
Jul 18 2014, 02:08 AM
Then you should stop taking then Kakarot because your clearly ignoring the stated facts in the manga. Unless you think Goku without using his special straining method would go from barely able to lift 40 tons to lifting up thousands of tons. Goku's going to get crushed by the weight force of a thousand tons if it gets chucked at him.
when you actually realize AKIRA SAID not to take his numbers in his OWN manga seriously you should stop bringing up 40 tons.

So you think 1000 ton ball is going to hurt someone with island lvl durability good to know lmfao

Fyi it takes gigatons of force to destroy an island lol 1000 ton ball hurting someone with island lvl durability just lmfao
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Sasuke waits for Goku's Kamehameha to almost reach him, then switches places with Goku. Naruto rushes Piccolo with countless Bijuu Mode clones and takes him down. Obito transports people to his dimension, cutting off limbs as he does so. Pein steals souls and totals the area with Chibaku Tensei. Madara wreaks havoc with his Perfect Susano'o. Itachi burns people with his Amaterasu. Kaguya does whatever she wants and ends up decimating pretty much everyone from both verses.
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Just stepping in, if we don't accept 40 tons or anything to that degree then how does anyone know Goku or anyone in DB for that matter can lift 1000's of tons if nothing suggests it?
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Jul 18 2014, 02:11 AM
Father Brofist
Jul 18 2014, 02:08 AM
Then you should stop taking then Kakarot because your clearly ignoring the stated facts in the manga. Unless you think Goku without using his special straining method would go from barely able to lift 40 tons to lifting up thousands of tons. Goku's going to get crushed by the weight force of a thousand tons if it gets chucked at him.
Was Goku lifting 40 tons? I thought it was similar to training in his weighted clothes.
He could not physically lift the weights themselves until he turned Super Saiyan. But it is noted that Goku is using a sort of specialized training that makes it harder for him to use the weights which is why I make the note that if Goku was using his full power without the hindering his body in some way, we could infer his overall weight capability would increase over that 40 tons.

But that still makes a huge assumption to say Goku is going to pop into the thousand ton range if he does that.
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TConnor_Demonic
Jul 18 2014, 02:13 AM
Just stepping in, if we don't accept 40 tons or anything to that degree then how does anyone know Goku or anyone in DB for that matter can lift 1000's of tons if nothing suggests it?
It's not a matter of lifting

When base freeza can rip apart beings who are planet lvl(nail)

I dont know why people think because you lift more that means you win
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King Kakarot
Jul 18 2014, 02:15 AM
TConnor_Demonic
Jul 18 2014, 02:13 AM
Just stepping in, if we don't accept 40 tons or anything to that degree then how does anyone know Goku or anyone in DB for that matter can lift 1000's of tons if nothing suggests it?
It's not a matter of lifting

When base freeza can rip apart beings who are planet lvl(nail)

I dont know why people think because you lift more that means you win
I'm not saying just because X character can lift more means they win, so stop making assumptions chump.

I'm asking where someone can put lifting strength in DBZ or DB if they completely disregard 40 tons. It becomes nothing more than calculation this for X rock's weight that Goku lifted back in DB.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

"oh no...40 tons...its so hard for my body to take. If only I could handle 40 tons..."

"Hey look...a 1,000 ton ball is coming down on me...I shall tank it with my face and lift it using my butt cheeks."

See something wrong with that?
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Idk how much goku can lift but let's assume he can't lift much just for what I'm about to say. His durability is island+ level. Sure if you put a wrecking ball(assuming it's too heavy for him) over him he won't be able to get up but I don't think he would get crushed would he? I'm thinking like if you're laying down and really fat kid jumps on you and you can't get him off

@king kakarot you've said this so many times. Can I see the interview where toriyama says not to take his numbers seriously?
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Father Brofist
Jul 18 2014, 02:22 AM
"oh no...40 tons...its so hard for my body to take. If only I could handle 40 tons..."

"Hey look...a 1,000 ton ball is coming down on me...I shall tank it with my face and lift it using my butt cheeks."

See something wrong with that?
Obvious inconsistentcy

An attack from raditz will do more blunt damage than a 1000 ton ball

Harming someone physically with your fists that has moon lvl durability will always do more damage than a 1000 ton ball that will do no damage
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Pointing out inconsistencies does nothing but weaken the foundation of an argument.

Naruto-Verse's techniques still win out against DB-Verse's
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Read the last line
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King Kakarot
Jul 18 2014, 02:31 AM
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Read the last line
So 'not taking too seriously' = blatantly disregarding them in favour of your own estimations and calculations? Got it, boss.
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Ssj3vegito96
Jul 18 2014, 02:24 AM
Idk how much goku can lift but let's assume he can't lift much just for what I'm about to say. His durability is island+ level. Sure if you put a wrecking ball(assuming it's too heavy for him) over him he won't be able to get up but I don't think he would get crushed would he? I'm thinking like if you're laying down and really fat kid jumps on you and you can't get him off

@king kakarot you've said this so many times. Can I see the interview where toriyama says not to take his numbers seriously?
We never really know the kind of pressure Goku's body can take on it in terms of weight though. Here's the thing, there's a big difference between energy and something's kinetic force. Goku might survive the energy produced from an attack but doesn't necessary mean he has the physical power to do the same thing against kinetic force.

There's never been much note of physical kinetic force in the manga, people are taking on the energy produced by the attacks. Considering what we see with Boo Arc Goku, there's a limit that the physical body can take, and its something AT notes as well in interviews. How to get passed this, Ki is needed.

That 40 tons was basically the outlier of what Goku can physically handle. If Goku can't handle 40 tons in the Boo Arc (again add some tons to account for training method) then he's obviously not going to be able to handle it when he's physically weaker.

Imagine a car. You can't push a car at all, its too heavy. Now say that car is movie at 1 mph...that car isn't going to hurt you if i thits you, but at the same time, the difference between you and is too large and its going going push you back. Now take that same car and make it travel at 100 mph. Then its a whole different story isn' tit when you've got this ton beast flying at you at great speed.

We don't really know what Goku would do, but its fair to say if a 1,000 ton ball comes flying at him at several mph, he's going to knocked away. His physical body isn't going to push that ball away or tank it, he can't handle that weight and he will be crushed and frankly yes unable to move.
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Jul 18 2014, 02:32 AM
King Kakarot
Jul 18 2014, 02:31 AM
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So 'not taking too seriously' = blatantly disregarding them in favour of your own estimations and calculations? Got it, boss.
What calculations am I doing that proves dbz has superior lifting strength?

Quit circle jerking bro
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King Kakarot
Jul 18 2014, 02:35 AM
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Jul 18 2014, 02:32 AM
King Kakarot
Jul 18 2014, 02:31 AM
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So 'not taking too seriously' = blatantly disregarding them in favour of your own estimations and calculations? Got it, boss.
What calculations am I doing that proves dbz has superior lifting strength?

Quit circle jerking bro
Whoopsie, looks like that doesn't even matter, Kakarot-chan. Read the last line again, you'll find that it doesn't disprove the 40-ton statement at all.
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