Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:40 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:38 PM

My last post once more, TIen had his eyes open the entire time and didn't notice Goku was gone.

So Goku is too fast for Tenshinhan to follow? Where did that amazing speed disappear to after the Taiyoken?

Edit - So you're going to deny the possibility that Goku was moving back to his original position when Tenshinhan charged him? Tenshinhan says that he can't see, not that he can't move.

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:44 PM

He has to be on par with Solar Flare at least, Goku being faster than Tien doesn't mean nothing because Tien is slightly beneath Goku's speed.

But everyone has their view on it, and I think Goku is on par with Solar Flare.

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:09 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

I didn't mean in the literal sense man, example being gag characters following Z-Figther's movement.

Why is this a possibility if Tien seen that Goku got the shades from Roshi?

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:13 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:09 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

I didn't mean in the literal sense man, example being gag characters following Z-Figther's movement.

Why is this a possibility if Tien seen that Goku got the shades from Roshi?

He probably didn't, though. He saw Goku move to the wall and back again. He'd be more focused on where Goku was than what he was doing, because he assumed that Goku couldn't see. Being close to the wall meant that he was;

1) Near a possible ring-out
2) Near something that Tenshinhan could use to trap him near the edge.

In Tenshinhan's mind, Goku was returning to where he was because it was the safest place, so he wouldn't really question it.

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:16 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:13 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:09 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

I didn't mean in the literal sense man, example being gag characters following Z-Figther's movement.

Why is this a possibility if Tien seen that Goku got the shades from Roshi?

He probably didn't, though. He saw Goku move to the wall and back again. He'd be more focused on where Goku was than what he was doing, because he assumed that Goku couldn't see. Being close to the wall meant that he was;

1) Near a possible ring-out
2) Near something that Tenshinhan could use to trap him near the edge.

In Tenshinhan's mind, Goku was returning to where he was because it was the safest place, so he wouldn't really question it.

Just no, if that was the case (your last post) he STILL would have seen the shades, regardless.

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:19 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:16 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:13 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:09 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

I didn't mean in the literal sense man, example being gag characters following Z-Figther's movement.

Why is this a possibility if Tien seen that Goku got the shades from Roshi?

He probably didn't, though. He saw Goku move to the wall and back again. He'd be more focused on where Goku was than what he was doing, because he assumed that Goku couldn't see. Being close to the wall meant that he was;

1) Near a possible ring-out
2) Near something that Tenshinhan could use to trap him near the edge.

In Tenshinhan's mind, Goku was returning to where he was because it was the safest place, so he wouldn't really question it.

Just no, if that was the case (your last post) he STILL would have seen the shades, regardless.

Okay, so we return to the fact that Goku massively outspeeds Tenshinhan yet no indication of such an advantage is given again.

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:23 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:19 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:16 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:13 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 06:09 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 06:04 PM

xGOKUdaFALLENx

Jul 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Naked Snake

Jul 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Ssj3vegito96

Jul 21 2014, 05:48 PM

So there's no way to know for sure if goku moved before tien performed the technique but there's no way to know if he didn't? So it could go either way?

I guess you could say that, but the disappearance of such speed later on doesn't make any sense if they're anywhere near light-speed.

Tenshinhan could be assuming that Goku's running to dodge his 'attack' and after it's done, he assumes that it worked and that Goku can't see.

True but it's the same with their power, it looks as if it weaken but the reality is plot. Majin Buu destroying a city with a Kamehameha and Frieza first form busting Planet Vegeta, both have a large gap yet the their display of power is totally different.

But for now I'm just gonna look the other cheek on that Solar Flare stuff. Speed decreasing is just plot.

There's no speed decreasing, though.

Goku realises something, most likely what Tenshinhan's about to do, and runs towards Roshi. Tenshinhan sees this and thinks that it's an attempt to run away from the 'attack'. After the move is done, Tenshinhan charges towards Goku, who's moving back towards the arena because he doesn't want to be close to the edge of the arena when he can't see (In Tenshnhan's mind at least). He launches a simple attack with the intention of knocking Goku back, but it gets caught. See? That's reasonable, and they don't need to be near lightspeed.

I didn't mean in the literal sense man, example being gag characters following Z-Figther's movement.

Why is this a possibility if Tien seen that Goku got the shades from Roshi?

He probably didn't, though. He saw Goku move to the wall and back again. He'd be more focused on where Goku was than what he was doing, because he assumed that Goku couldn't see. Being close to the wall meant that he was;

1) Near a possible ring-out
2) Near something that Tenshinhan could use to trap him near the edge.

In Tenshinhan's mind, Goku was returning to where he was because it was the safest place, so he wouldn't really question it.

Just no, if that was the case (your last post) he STILL would have seen the shades, regardless.

Okay, so we return to the fact that Goku massively outspeeds Tenshinhan yet no indication of such an advantage is given again.

It doesn't have be specified, if we know that Goku is equal to the Solar Flare then everything else is just faster than that.

Solar Flare/LS ~ 22nd Goku < Onward

They could be only be above LS by 1 to 10% for it all to stay in their ball park.