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Naruto verse vs DB Verse
Topic Started: Jul 14 2014, 02:25 PM (9,067 Views)
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So we all know that DBZ verse would win but what about DB verse?

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Raikage is much faster than Kakashi saqer.

Minato ~> Naruto ~> 3rd Raikage > 4th Raikage > Kakashi

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Jul 20 2014, 09:44 PM
Raikage is much faster than Kakashi saqer.

Minato ~> Naruto ~> 3rd Raikage > 4th Raikage > Kakashi
He's faster both in combat speed and travel speed, but not in reaction speed. The 4th Raikage is stated to be the fastest, so he's faster than his father. Sasuke with his 3 tomoe Sharingan kept up with the Raikage, at least visually, and his reaction is probably better than the Raikage himself. The Raikage has superior maneuver and combat speed. Sasuke was ~ Kakashi at that time.

Minato (via FTG) > KCM Naruto > V2 4th Raikage > 3rd Raikage > Kakashi in speed.
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Not really. He was going toe to toe with Minato in reaction speed and short distance travel speed. There's no evidence of Kakashi being faster than Raikage in reaction speed.

I'd say 3rd is faster than 4th mainly based on conjecture. When the 4th said he was the fastest I think he mean everyone in his generation. I don't think he actually got to witness the 3rd in battle.

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Jul 20 2014, 09:58 PM
Not really. He was going toe to toe with Minato in reaction speed and short distance travel speed. There's no evidence of Kakashi being faster than Raikage in reaction speed.

I'd say 3rd is faster than 4th mainly based on conjecture. When the 4th said he was the fastest I think he mean everyone in his generation. I don't think he actually got to witness the 3rd in battle.
In their brief fight, Minato used his FTG to get around. Not his physical speed.

The 4th Raikage clearly stated that he's faster than anyone but Minato who was in the generation of his father. That's a strong evidence here that he's faster than than his father. His father is known for his strength and durability, not speed.
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And even when he was using FTG Raikage was keeping up with him. And like I said there's no evidence of Kakashi reaction > Raikage.

I always saw it how you're saying it now with 4th Raikage being more of the "speedy one". I just changed it recently seeing how the 3rd's reaction speeds were enough to dodge Naruto's attack despite being in threat from all directions.

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And even when he was using FTG Raikage was keeping up with him. And like I said there's no evidence of Kakashi reaction > Raikage.

I always saw it how you're saying it now with 4th Raikage being more of the "speedy one". I just changed it recently seeing how the 3rd's reaction speeds were enough to dodge Naruto's attack despite being in threat from all directions.
He didn't. He just went to the kunai Minato appeared on. Sasuke kept up with the 4th Raikage with his normal Sharingan, at least visually. Don't know about reaction, but he can see him, as we've seen that Sasuke ~ Kakashi in their fight.

All what the 3rd Raikage did was dodging an obvious attack. He had unlimited chakra, which means unlimited stamina too. Naruto didn't comment on his saying that he's faster than his son/the 4th Raikage or anything. The only thing he said that the Raikage are always super fast.
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He didn't. He just went to the kunai Minato appeared on.

Any by going to the kunai he appeared on he was keeping up with him. It was implied through the respect he had as well. When Raikage said Minato was the only one faster than him it was implied they were pretty close. Just read the line again.

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Sasuke kept up with the 4th Raikage with his normal Sharingan, at least visually. Don't know about reaction, but he can see him, as we've seen that Sasuke ~ Kakashi in their fight.

Being able to keep up with him visually is not that impressive with the Sharigan. Second you aren't proving anything by saying Kakashi ~ Saskue. Saskue doesn't have any stated speed other than faster than sound as a genin.

It's pretty really proven that Minato ~> Raikage > Kakashi. Everything else just seems like weak conjecture.

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I highly doubt Kakashi's reaction speeds are greater Sasuke couldn't even keep up with the Raikage visually and he's an Uchiha/

Maybe he'd see Raikage moving but he wouldn't be able to defend himself in time, unless they were a good distance apart.


Speed is literally all 4th Raikage has currently only Naruto, perhaps Sasuke, Minato and maybe Kaguya can top his speed.

Off topic but FTG aside I wonder who's faster out of Minato and Kakashi? Minato caught Naruto pretty damn quick when Tobi threw him, with raw speed.
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Any by going to the kunai he appeared on he was keeping up with him. It was implied through the respect he had as well. When Raikage said Minato was the only one faster than him it was implied they were pretty close. Just read the line again.


Minato was sure fast, but by no means close to him. By the time he appeared on the Kunai, he already had his mind set to appear on Bee. Minato was fast enough to complete his task which was teleporting to Bee as soon as he appeared on the kunai, and he did it. Nothing much.

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Being able to keep up with him visually is not that impressive with the Sharigan. Second you aren't proving anything by saying Kakashi ~ Saskue.


Kakashi fought Sasuke, and was pretty much equal to him. Add on that he didn't use his MS until Sasuke used his MS.

Being able to keep up with him visually is not that impressive with the Sharigan. Second you aren't proving anything by saying Kakashi ~ Saskue. Saskue doesn't have any stated speed other than faster than sound as a genin.

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It's pretty really proven that Minato ~> Raikage > Kakashi. Everything else just seems like weak conjecture.


The chain works when it's like this.

Minato (w/ FTG) > Raikage (V2) > Kakashi.

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Is kakashi actually faster than lightning? Or is it just with raikiri? Idk what happened exactly
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Jul 21 2014, 03:26 PM
Is kakashi actually faster than lightning? Or is it just with raikiri? Idk what happened exactly
We don't really know the circumstances but he cut lightning, so he can react to lightning and swing his arm as fast or faster than it.

Combat/Travel speed I doubt he's even half lightning speed though.
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Jul 21 2014, 03:26 PM
Is kakashi actually faster than lightning? Or is it just with raikiri? Idk what happened exactly
Kakashi was able to cut a bolt of lighting with Raikiri, which is essentially a technique where he gathers lightning chakra in his hand. The technique was powerful, obviously, but nothing indicates that it increases his senses at all, so him cutting the bolt of lightning was purely his own reaction speed.
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I hear he was on a cliff waiting for the bolt of lightning though. Does it still count then?
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Jul 21 2014, 04:16 PM
I hear he was on a cliff waiting for the bolt of lightning though. Does it still count then?
It does, yeah. Even if he was waiting for it, he'd still have to be fast enough to react to it once it was shooting down towards him.
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