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| Saberoph | Jul 6 2014, 10:57 PM Post #16 |
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Well, Kakarrot had already let go of the Genkai Dama and had given up too, so was Kakarrot really holding it when he went SS? |
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| RealSociedad | Jul 7 2014, 01:31 AM Post #17 |
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Movies arent canon. So maybe with toei logic it is actually possible to transform in the middle of a beam struggle. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jul 7 2014, 01:47 AM Post #18 |
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Broly would be around Super Vegito level. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 02:15 AM Post #19 |
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Here's the problem... the Diaz would at least state something. Nothing is ever stated or implied... even in the Movies if it's not stated or implied, then it doesn't exist. |
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| + Yusuke | Jul 7 2014, 04:08 AM Post #20 |
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I'm a believer of SSJ2 Goku > LSSJ Broly because Goku had no problem going down in Hell and whooping Broly a new one. Even if it was a weaker Broly in question, the last Broly Goku sensed was M10's Broly so he'd have to compare that Broly to himself to feel confident in going. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 7 2014, 04:18 AM Post #21 |
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Doesn't matter whatcha believe or how many books you wanna bring from the bowels, it's seen right in the movie that Gohan transforms. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 04:22 AM Post #22 |
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Actually, it does matter since it's never been shown or implied to be possible before or after Movie 10. The Diaz would at least comment on it, because that's more than note worthy. IT wouldn't make any sense for it to comment on M10 SS Broli>SS Kakarrot but not that Transforming during a beam struggle is possible or not. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 7 2014, 04:31 AM Post #23 |
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I know your game, seen it so much these past few days. You're not trapping me with your inconceivable web, sir! I know I saw 2 bangs and then 1 bang, so cling to what you want, but I saw what I saw! |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 04:34 AM Post #24 |
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I'm not playing any games, and don't accuse me of it! So, prove to me that it's established and proven that before and after M10 that it's possible to Transform during a beam struggle. I'll be waiting... Also, I could argue that later we see Gohan with one bang in SS so saying Gohan remained SS isn't that far fetched. Also, several times Kakarrot has put out more power in SS and only had one bang. Edited by Saberoph, Jul 7 2014, 04:38 AM.
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Jul 7 2014, 04:41 AM Post #25 |
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Not really the same but, Goku was able to up (power-up) his Kaio-Ken in his beam struggle against Vegeta. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 04:48 AM Post #26 |
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Yeah, we already said that. But Kaioken is clearly different than SS, where it's not a Transformation. Also, Gohan burst all his power in his Kamehameha against Cell. I'm not questioning if someone can power up or not during a beam struggle, I'm questioning Transforming because it's never been seen or done before or since then. And even in DBZ if it hasn't been established or done after, then it's not really possible... in the MAnga or Anime, which the Anime is TOEI's world. So, Movie 10 shouldn't be an exception to this. |
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Jul 7 2014, 04:52 AM Post #27 |
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You have to still concentrate your power to up your Kaio-Ken (or even just power-up), though. Edited by StrawHatCrew, Jul 7 2014, 04:53 AM.
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 04:57 AM Post #28 |
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But Kaioken is a power up... not a Transformation. Transforming and powering up are two different things. We have seen power ups during beam struggles several times, but not a Transformation. And we have yet to see one prior to or after Movie 10. Going by DBZ logic, that means Transforming during a beam struggle does not exist. |
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| Crow | Jul 7 2014, 05:33 AM Post #29 |
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Why do you keep talking about this "we haven't seen it before so it can't exist" stuff? You just keep repeating yourself. We already know the movies don't do everything with exact detail of following the manga and anime in every aspect so it makes perfect sense. The movie just decided to do a first for once, or they probably and most likely didn't even think about it and just put it in. We have never seen goku unleash a dragon fist in the anime and manga so it doesn't exist in the movie according to your logic. All that needs to be said is, that is what we saw, he had two bangs then one, on top of that goku changed as well which is more distinct. If you think gohan didn't look ssj2 then argue that. This "can't exist" stuff appears to be very shaky through my eyes. Edited by Crow, Jul 7 2014, 05:37 AM.
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 05:37 AM Post #30 |
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Not really because in GT we see it more than once. Also, it's more clear what the move is and the move it's self does make more sense than pulling a Transformation out of his a*** when he could have other times. |
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