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Discrimination against Atheists, non-Christians, and alternative lifestyles
Topic Started: Jul 5 2014, 03:06 PM (3,218 Views)
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Jul 6 2014, 06:50 PM
Try living in Oklahoma. It's hell on earth for anyone other than Christians, yet they still have the nerve to complain that Christians are discriminated against.
Same in Texas, it's really annoying.
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@Project

Lets just say that there are a group of people who seek for "global interests".Like I said before the situation is more intense than you can imagine.The "project" is to prevent the "collapse of the humanity" from occurring before the actual date.

@Same Outcome
Yes in the sense that they both can be used to control a person and both "science" and "relegion" are based on "assumptions/belief" at their root's or origin.

In other words "science" and "relegion" are created by the above mentioned "group of people" so that the project may proceed unabated and we know how important "people's mindset" is to the equation.

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"One person's dislike is an another person's like"
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America! Land of the free!
Oh, how ironic.
Incredible, It's 2014 and the percentage of atheists/agnostics in still no more than 14%

Wanna believe in the magical man in the Sky? Be my guest, I won't stop you. Try to prohibit anything or call anyone bad for not believing in it and you're going too far
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I'm lucky enough to live in New England. Given our history of religious persecution and superstition (ie the Salem Witch Trials), you'd think that we'd be incredibly religious, but we're not.

We're probably one of the least religious places in the US.
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Our country has the third largest amount of atheists in all of Europe, pretty proud of that. The majority is still christian. And there's still politicians who claim that pregnancy after rape is the victim's fault. Disgusting
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Jul 6 2014, 07:03 PM
I'm lucky enough to live in New England. Given our history of religious persecution and superstition (ie the Salem Witch Trials), you'd think that we'd be incredibly religious, but we're not.

We're probably one of the least religious places in the US.
Almost ironic eh?

I'm fortunate to live in Illinois, it's one of those odd states when it comes to Atheism and Religion where the further north you go the less people give a crap about your beliefs or lack thereof, but the further south you go the more people give a crap and eventually get to a point where you're considered a Satanist even when you explain to them what an Atheist is.
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Jul 6 2014, 06:57 PM

@speech marks
"One person's dislike is an another person's like"
Everybody liked Rogue's post
Turns out most people dislike it, so do us a favor and quit it. It adds nothing to it. It's just random.
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Jul 6 2014, 06:57 PM
@Project

Lets just say that there are a group of people who seek for "global interests".Like I said before the situation is more intense than you can imagine.The "project" is to prevent the "collapse of the humanity" from occurring before the actual date.

@Same Outcome
Yes in the sense that they both can be used to control a person and both "science" and "relegion" are based on "assumptions/belief" at their root's or origin.

In other words "science" and "relegion" are created by the above mentioned "group of people" so that the project may proceed unabated and we know how important "people's mindset" is to the equation.

@speech marks
"One person's dislike is an another person's like"
So, there's a group of people who use Religion and Science as a means of controlling people and saving the human race from collapsing before they should?

Forgive me if I'm a tad hesitant to believe that.
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Jul 6 2014, 06:57 PM
@Project

Lets just say that there are a group of people who seek for "global interests".Like I said before the situation is more intense than you can imagine.The "project" is to prevent the "collapse of the humanity" from occurring before the actual date.

@Same Outcome
Yes in the sense that they both can be used to control a person and both "science" and "relegion" are based on "assumptions/belief" at their root's or origin.

In other words "science" and "relegion" are created by the above mentioned "group of people" so that the project may proceed unabated and we know how important "people's mindset" is to the equation.

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"One person's dislike is an another person's like"
Yes everything is in some way a belief. What we can say is what is most likely to be true. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. There is a small chance it really is an alien from Mars in a duck costume, but the wise man stands by what he sees and knows, and resists any forces of deception.
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Thats exactly it.You are assuming that what you perceive is "true/real".But we don't have "facts" to prove about our perception's "truth value".
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Jul 6 2014, 07:28 PM
@yokip

Thats exactly it.You are assuming that what you perceive is "true/real".But we don't have "facts" to prove about our perception's "truth value".
You have to believe that what you see is true or real to some extent, otherwise you'll be forced into idealism and potentially solipsism.
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This is why religion and science are the same.They are based on "assumption/belief".This is what I have been trying to say in the previous posts.
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CheckMateIzGod
Jul 6 2014, 07:28 PM
@yokip

Thats exactly it.You are assuming that what you perceive is "true/real".But you don't have "facts" to prove it.
Yokip has no reason to believe anything different.

Consistent results have proven that a duck that's observed is actually a duck and not an alien from Mars in a duck costume. A DNA test would prove that it's a duck, and even if all ducks that have ever existed were aliens from Mars, that is what we'd understand a duck to be. That concept itself doesn't change, even though our understanding of how it relates to Earth would.

It would be more inclined to believe that you're an automated program talking to me simply because I know those exist. However, given the tone of your responses, I have no reason to believe that.

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CheckMateIzGod
Jul 6 2014, 07:36 PM
@snake

This is why religion and science are the same.They are based on "assumption/belief".This is what I have been trying to say in the previous posts.
Assumptions of a completely different nature. If you want to go down this route, here;

Religion assumes that there's some sort of Deity that created the Universe
Science assumes that the Universe actually exists

Well, now what? You talked about whether things exist and used that to prove that science is based on assumptions, so what's next? Saying that they're both the same because they both make assumptions is like saying Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are the same because they're both written on paper.
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Jul 6 2014, 07:28 PM
@yokip

Thats exactly it.You are assuming that what you perceive is "true/real".But we don't have "facts" to prove about our perception's "truth value".
Are own awareness is something we know exists this doesn't require belief because we wouldn't be able to ask ourself this question. Awareness and the environment is one thing it goes hand to hand without the environment you have no awareness in the same sense you can't have front without back or you can't have a mirror reflecting an image without an environment, consciousness is like a mirror. So what we see is a bit like a reflection of a mirror making are perception true.
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