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Super Saiyan 4 Boost
Topic Started: Jul 3 2014, 01:13 AM (526 Views)
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I'm of the belief that it's an on the spot potential unlock, though I know others think it's a multiplier. Which do you think and why?
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Since I don't do power levels anymore, I just assume plot. Though, prior to my abandoning of power levels, 6,400 times base, 16x SSJ3, worked wonders alongside a 1,000 times increase for the Golden Oozaru.
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Interesting. Are you implying that you don't think that SSJ 4 and Gold Oozaru are equal in power?
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Jul 3 2014, 01:22 AM
Interesting. Are you implying that you don't think that SSJ 4 and Gold Oozaru are equal in power?
I do not simply because it doesn't work IMO. I don't really see Bebi Vegeta having less potential than Goku so the idea that Goku's Golden Oozaru would be stronger than Bebi's despite the difference in power is just silly to me. Plus, Golden Oozaru is never implied to be a potential release in the show or any guides. SSJ4 is built up to be the end all be all power up as well.
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If we do view it as a potential unlock, it could be possible for Baby to have tampered with Vegeta's potential. We must keep in mind that SSJ 4 Vegeta was able to fuse wit a slightly battle worn surpassed limits SSJ 4 Goku, so he must have an immense amount of dormant power.

That's another reason why I don't view it as a multiplier. Vegeta wasn't implied to be close at all to a Goku in Base, but his SSJ 4 ended up being equal in power to a slightly weakened surpassed limits Goku.
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Jul 3 2014, 01:29 AM
If we do view it as a potential unlock, it could be possible for Baby to have tampered with Vegeta's potential. We must keep in mind that SSJ 4 Vegeta was able to fuse wit a slightly battle worn surpassed limits SSJ 4 Goku, so he must have an immense amount of dormant power.

That's another reason why I don't view it as a multiplier. Vegeta wasn't implied to be close at all to a Goku in Base, but his SSJ 4 ended up being equal in power to a slightly weakened surpassed limits Goku.
Why would he? Also, you'd have to prove that. I would consider Goku slightly weakened. He got his a*** beat, and used up a lot of what was left on a Super Dragon Fist. There's really no way to tell where he'd be in relation. Plus Goku could always lower his battle power to match Vegeta's. Trunks did just that to fuse with Goten.
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Hmm that's a pretty good counter. I'll concede on that point, but I still think it's a potential unlock.
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Could be anything, really. I'm currently in favor of the "instant dormant power unlock" idea, but if a new GT guidebook came along and said it was a x5,000 boost or something, I'd more than likely just say "okey dokey, whatevs."

But that's because GT is such a confusing up-and-down mess when it comes to power scaling that I practically never even touch it in terms of power levels, so all I really do is just take guidebook hints and statements about it at face value. Right now those favor the "dormant power" approach, even if unintentionally.

I figured out a much simpler system for my GT rewrite fanfiction, where Gold Oozaru and Super Saiyan 4 will simply multiply your highest Super Saiyan form's power by Oozaru's 10x. So for both Goku and Vegeta, the only two to reach it, it ends up being a solid 4,000x boost, a 10x increase off of Super Saiyan 3.
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Not 100% sure, but I think the GT Perfect Files says it's a Full Potential unlock.

I believe it is, but I can see why people believe it's not.

Even though the irony of it is if you're doing a PL list, you would have to use a Multiplier if it is a Potential Unlock lol.

In the form of a PL List, I take the following Multipliers and combine them into one big Multiplier.

1. Great Ape. X10.
2. Original SS Multiplier. X50.
3. SS2. X4.
4. SS3. X8.

I go with that because SS4 is supposed to be on a completely different level than any of the other SS Forms. It might seem too high, but for me it still doesn't equal my Potara Multiplier, so I don't see a problem.
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I view it as a potential unlock at first and it makes you stronger then it is 10x SSJ3 but your base has been brought up so you are stronger

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I go with around 40,000x base as I feel it is 100x SSJ3. Unless you have it equal to full power Golden Oozaru then you could make an argument for 10x SSJ3.
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I'm just too lazy to have different SSJ4 boosts for every instance it's used so I just roll with SSJ4 being15X stronger than SSJ3. Works fine IMO.
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