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The Look of Super Saiyan God.
Topic Started: Jul 2 2014, 04:52 PM (12,074 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Or maybe that's because SSJ God looks unimaginatively like Kaioken.
Edited by EMIYA, Jul 3 2014, 02:31 AM.
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You keep saying that, but you keep glazing over the fact that Kaioken doesn't even appear to have red hair or eyes.
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Again, the only similarity is that they both use the color red.

Kaio-Ken makes a red aura. Super Saiyan God has red hair and eyes. The similarities end there.


EDIT: Come to think of it, forget the Boo / Dodoria comparison, actually. Because Kaio-Ken isn't even a form. It's just a technique.

So it's more like claiming that Butta is a ripoff of <character using a Kamehameha> because their designs both use the color blue. Which just makes the inanity of the comparison all the more obvious.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Eyes perhaps, you honestly can't look at Kaioken and tell me it doesn't make Goku look like his hair is red. His hair might not be red but it certainly looks like it, both in the manga shorts and in the anime. It may not be pure red like SSJ God as I said but it still has that red imagery to it. Look at your manga short you gave. It looks like Goku's got this incredibly deep red hair. Even if it technically isn't, it still gives off that visual impression.

And in the anime, there are times where the Kaioken does give the illusion that the eyes are red.

Also stop trying to use the Dodoria/Boo or Burter/KHH as evidence. Nobody has ever compared those two or said they were the same. People are constantly comparing SSJ God to Kaioken. People are comparing the two forms for a reason and it ain't because they're blind or unimaginative.

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I can actually because this is purple:
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Sorry for the overwhelming image count, but I apparently need overwhelmingly prove my point.
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The hell?

Damn, I step away for just a few hours and I see all of this... wow, this is unexpected.

As for the Super Saiyan God and Kaioken argument, they're compared because of how the Anime makes Kaioken look at times, if the Anime hadn't made Kakarrot's hair or eyes look red at times due to the red aura, then we wouldn't be having this debate right now.

I just don't get why more creativity was put into the SSG design... it just seems very lazy to me.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Purple? I must be color blind then because...I don't see purple. I see red. I see a very dark red. I suppose if I squint hard enough I'll see some incredibly dark purple but...when I think purple I look at some like Beers who looks purple. There's never been a time where I've looked at Kaioken and thought purple at all.
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Jul 3 2014, 02:52 AM

I just don't get why more creativity was put into the SSG design... it just seems very lazy to me.
I heard there was a back and forth conversation on how SSJG should look between akira and someone and yes there is no doubt akira is extremely lazy
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I'm fine with the transformation. Look at Beerus, he's not a huge monster of a god, so I don't see why Goku needs to be in SSG. The red hair is what throws people off, obviously, but I think he looks well-designed and non-flashy, which is a big thing for me. I prefer it this way.
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I'm an amateur and may not be the best drawer out there, but damn I'm at least original and pay attention to detail. Not saying AT isn't original, but just saying.

Hell, I may draw what I think it should look like just for the hell of it.
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Jul 3 2014, 03:12 AM
I'm fine with the transformation. Look at Beerus, he's not a huge monster of a god, so I don't see why Goku needs to be in SSG. The red hair is what throws people off, obviously, but I think he looks well-designed and non-flashy, which is a big thing for me. I prefer it this way.
True, but he also looks unique.

And unlike SSJG, Beers didn't last less than 5 minutes and not even do all that much for those few minutes.
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lazerbem
Jul 3 2014, 03:18 AM
And unlike SSJG, Beers didn't last less than 5 minutes and not even do all that much for those few minutes.
That's unrelated to the topic though.
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Revamped Kaioken in Kai intro? Not even close
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Beers was in the end, very interesting both in design and personality. It was something that sort of blurred the line between early dragon ball and DBZ. It wasn't as childish as Dragon Ball but it wasn't as buffed and muscular as DBZ was. It was a nice dividing line between the two. His Egyptian motive was...as far as I know, something that was never done before in the series. His personality was incredibly likable and he was probably one of the first intelligent anti-villains of the series.

When it comes to it, once things are done and finished. I think people are definitely going to remember Beers and his antics then they are of the 5 minutes (if that long) of SSJ God.
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What if it's intended that each SSG is supposed to look different? And since Goku has the Kaioken ability, he gets the "similar" traits.
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