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| Gremmy Thoumeau vs Kaguya Otsutsuki vs Janemba | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 2 2014, 08:19 AM (7,311 Views) | |
| + Solid Snake | Jul 2 2014, 08:19 AM Post #1 |
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Gremmy has insight on both his oppositions power. Kaguya cannot absorb any projectiles attacks. Janemba can't nuke the planet but has everything else. Case 2: Janemba is as smart as Gero. Who wins? |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Jul 2 2014, 08:32 AM Post #2 |
 
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Whoever warps s*** first lol. Skimmed through the recent thread involving Kaguya, I know about how people feel about Janemba, and Gremmy is controversial given the most recent thread involving him turning into an insult flinging crap fest. I'd think it's basically whoever makes the first move. |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 2 2014, 08:37 AM Post #3 |
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Kaguya really just had that dimensional power to get her passed most ho Marvel. Gremmy? I myself ain't to sure on him to be honest. |
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| + Steve | Jul 2 2014, 09:59 AM Post #4 |
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Kaguya or Janemba but only through his strength and speed for him. Gremmy can only create or alter things in to real things, it's that or his imagination is just terrible. Kaguya can just walk through dimensions, send people in to any dimension she feels like and she can control the terrain to her will. Gremmy is limited by having to focus on what to do, he has to know how to get out of a situation to imagine a way out when Kenpachi cuts him he imagines himself being as hard as the strongest steel, which isn't enough. If he was all powerful he could have imagined himself being invincible. So Kaguya could just put him in a dimension where there is only space and he'd probably die or get damaged, he could create an air bubble around him no doubt but it would damage him before he got it up, a lot even Kenpachi got messed up by that to the point where even he is nearly dead so it's wrecking Gremmy easy. It would mostly be Kaguya vs Janemba, not sure who'd win they'd be fighting for ages anyway. I'd say that's even because Janemba is so powerful until we have some more Kaguya feats or weaknesses. Unless she can warp him in to a star neither have a way to beat the other and he could probably resist that ability since he has a similar kind but to a lesser extent. |
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Spite janemba was already in another league ccompared to these two he has the speed advantage and the power gap then you made him smart as gero lol He does things some very bad things too gremmy and kaguya |
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| EMIYA | Jul 2 2014, 11:53 AM Post #6 |
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Janemba's warping doesn't even compare to the two. If the the other two are allowed insight on the other characters, they're going to turn Janemba's brain into a cookie and send him him to a star before he has time to escalate. Janemba might have more physical power on his side, but he's completely defeated in terms of the reality warping power of the two which is just seemingly haxed beyond belief. So it really is just a case of who attacks who first and knowing Gremmy's mindset at times...being stupid that is, I'll assume Kaguya is more likely to make the first move. Now in Scenario 2, Janemba now being hellishly smart should probably realize the danger of these two (because again being as smart as may not change the fact that his reality warping powers are crap compared to the two) and attack as quickly as possible because as I said, his physical powers seemingly far exceed their own so he should know to attack before they go dimensional lava cookie brain on him or something. So in the first scenario, Gremmy or Kaguya with, until I get more information I suppose, a leaning towards Kaguya. In the second scenario, Einstein Janemba. |
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| + Steve | Jul 2 2014, 12:41 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think being as smart as Gero means all that much really, I mean Gero was fairly smart as he could build androids. But why would he know anything about reality warping? And he clearly new nothing good of battle tactics he's a good inventor and that's it really nothing suggests he'd know all about reality warping and dimensions. Kaguya seems to have the best knowledge of dimensions and perhaps her power, either she's linked to every dimension in some way or she just has many set up to throw people in to whenever she wants. She can do it from a distance too not sure if that's been mentioned, it seems fairly short ranged though so far, like a 100m radius or around that. Plus Byakugan and Sharinnegan, anyone flying at her would be in slow motion and once they hit that 100m or whatever radius she can put them wherever she wants. She reacts to Naruto who's raw speed is compared to teleportation 4 power ups ago, Janemba's speed is irrelevant it would only be good against Gremmy. Actually yeah. Kaguya > Janemba Janemba > Gremmy Gremmy =< Kaguya Janemba could wreck Gremmy and then Kaguya would destroy him but if Janemba was defeated first then it could go either way but probably leaning on Kaguya still something like her brain being turned in to cookies she could possibly survive. Since she's not been damaged it's unclear what kind of regen she has, Madara's rib cage was healed in seconds at least and whatever damage he took from Gai was healed damn quick too, Kaguya is the next level. Actually I've forgot like the most basic thing about the Sharigan, precog abilites and also the ability to see chakra/energy Janemba's speed is even more irrelevant and seeing however Gremmy's power works she might know when he's going to affect her body and escape. If he uses Sexy Justu though, she might be in trouble. Lol it's hilarious how hax Kaguya is...lord knows how Naruto is supposed to beat her... |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 2 2014, 03:06 PM Post #8 |
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Janemba may be a weaker warper, but he's a warper nonetheless. His ability is effective as he fights. He can become intangible as he shifts through dimensions, and can attack their blind sides as he attack through dimensions. But his overall advantage is his power and speed. He has regeneration too. |
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| Mihawk | Jul 2 2014, 07:21 PM Post #9 |
 
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Gremmy >>> Janemba >>> Kayuuga If we give Gremmy his CIS and remove it from the other two Janemba >>> Kayuuga => Gremmy And the only reason Janemba is anything in these is because of his speed/etc. |
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| + Steve | Jul 2 2014, 07:53 PM Post #10 |
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His speed doesn't really matter to Kaguya, there's no way he's going to be faster than Naruto at best equal but she can react to that speed fine so it doesn't help him and if he fires any blast she can just go to a sandy beach dimension and sunbathe for a while. The reality warping Janemba is control of is extremely basic and weak, his existence warps all of reality but he doesn't control that. He makes that sword which cuts through practically everything and it gets a clean hit on Goku and only cuts his shoulder, so clearly it's not an almighty sword he can create. And if his warping power fails to reach SSj3 Goku then it's very limited towards people close to his power, so the fat Janemba making a copy of Goku isn't that much of a feat since it was the weakest form of Goku. Highly over...valued? Character. Also presumably Kaguya has the same type of shield ability that Madara used(it makes no sense for her not to) so beams and things, or any rockets etc Gremmy throws at her for that matter would be rendered useless. Although dimension travel is an even better power in some ways. |
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| + supersaqer | Jul 2 2014, 10:37 PM Post #11 |
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I don't care what they can do without CIS, but from their showings, Janemba in a blitz. Taking Janemba away, Kaguya defeats Gremmy. |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 3 2014, 12:49 AM Post #12 |
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Janemba creating another Goku is more than than that. Even if Fat Janemba created a weaker Goku, he still created one to mimic and stalemate Goku's own Kamehameha, and he like Buu was clearly having fun as he did this, implying he could do more or wasn't serious. Goku was spared because that shielding slightly weaken the attack. If I have a bulletproof vest and am shot from a distance, I will still be effected due to the vest taking the blunt force. Janemba has since shot at winning with his ability too. |
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| EMIYA | Jul 3 2014, 01:26 AM Post #13 |
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Janemba didn't really create an entirely new person, more or less just make this mirror image that copied Goku's attack and disappeared the moment he did. Unless Janemba can attack first, and in the first scenario he's not going to have the intelligence to do so and the other two are going to decimate his soul and plant over into a volcano before he has the chance to start anything. Janemba's facing at least one heavy reality warper that can literally turn Janemba's bones into cookies or put him into a Black Hole or just turn his brain into said cookies again. You got another one who can gap him into several dimensions and places that would instantly kill him apparently. Janemba is greatly underwhelmed in this fight in terms of abilities and powers in this fight. We apparently have Kagyua at teleportation speed meaning that Janemba's strongest aspect, his speed isn't even as good here. If by some miracle he gets passed Gremmy without getting mind screwed, he's still got to deal with Kaguya and his speed and power won't save him here. Janemba is heavily outclassed in this fight especially when Gremmy has knowledge on him now. If this was regular CIS Gremmy, he might be too stupid to try anything. But I'm inferring that Gremmy's going to take the fight seriously and try to finish Janemba off as quickly as he can before the latter does anything. |
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Jul 3 2014, 01:34 AM Post #14 |
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basically this Janemba can move and end the fight(he has more than enough power and speed) before they can even react |
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| + Solid Snake | Jul 3 2014, 04:12 AM Post #15 |
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To compensate Janemba's case, Cell was comparing his speed to something akin to Goku's Instant Transmission, not better but enough so to come close to rivaling it. I think you see where I'm getting at Brofist. Grammy can craft black holes but he'd be doom as well if he doesn't act, and besides if Kaguya and Janemba move at teleportation like speeds or above then Grammy really just beat himself. Kaguya can't really transport Janemba anywhere harsh enough to do him in. Sun level heat won't effect him long enough to do any serious damage, besides, he can regenerate. |
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