Super Kaio-ken, is it actually possible ?

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Super Kaio-ken, is it actually possible ?
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UncleGoten	Jul 1 2014, 04:35 PM Post #1
Posts: 2,118 Group: GFX Team Member #7,628 Joined: May 11, 2012 Country Ireland Favourite Anime Kimi ni Todoke,Ao Haru Ride, Kaichou wa Maid-sama!, Nisekoi, Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun, and Sakurasao Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Goku used it in the filler fight versus Pikkon, but is it actually possible that Goku could layer a x2 Kaio-Ken over MSSJ ? Thoughts on the matter ? Another question regarding Kaio-Ken, couldn't Goku have just used a x20 Kaio-Ken against Cell (From his base form obviously) ? Then a IT Kamehameha would have probably finished Cell off. For people that use the x5 SSJ multiplier, this x20 would make Goku more powerful than a hypothetical SSJ2 power up at that point.



SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 04:38 PM Post #2
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Quote: Goku used it in the filler fight versus Pikkon, but is it actually possible that Goku could layer a x2 Kaio-Ken over MSSJ ? Thoughts on the matter ? I'm going to say yes and no. While Goku was a regular SSJ I think adding Kaioken on top would be too stressful on his body. SSJ isn't really all that stressful, but I think adding Kaioken to it may be bad. Once he masters it though, I think he could easily perform Super Kaioken. It would basically be stacking Kaioken onto base, but his base is SSJ. Quote: Another question regarding Kaio-Ken, couldn't Goku have just used a x20 Kaio-Ken against Cell (From his base form obviously) ? Then a IT Kamehameha would have probably finished Cell off. For people that use the x5 SSJ multiplier, this x20 would make Goku more powerful than a hypothetical SSJ2 power up at that point. This is one of he reasons why I keep a 50x multiplier these days.



SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 1 2014, 04:40 PM Post #3
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Yes, albeit slightly improbable, I do believe Super Kaio-ken to be possible. I base this on SSJ3 which expends an enormous amount of strain. It can be argued that SSJ3 is more stressful than Kaio-ken or SSJ. It's possible that Super Kaio-ken could be as stressful as SSJ3 which Alive-Goku was only able to maintain for a short while against Pure Buu.
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+ Pelador	Jul 1 2014, 04:41 PM Post #4
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	He never used it in canon even when it would have been an ideal situation. So I don't think it's possible. He would probably burst just like how Freeza killed Krillin.
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Saberoph	Jul 1 2014, 04:48 PM Post #5
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I think either what Pelador said, or Kakarrot would be drained as much as he was against Chibi Boo, but with the painful effects from the Saiyan arc, but far worse than that and probably to the point where he couldn't move at all IMO.
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+ Kaboom	Jul 1 2014, 04:50 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Like others have beaten me to pointing out, I think it's only possible once Super Saiyan has been mastered. Otherwise the compounded stress would be too much.



Saberoph	Jul 1 2014, 04:54 PM Post #7
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Let me elaborate a little more about this... If this was possible somehow, I believe it could only be done so if Kakarrot can handle a Kaioken x50 as easy as MSS and also be MSS, I would say Kakarrot would need to have Mastered at least Kaioken x70, just to leave a large enough work room where he's playing it safe. But for me that's a big "IF"
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 1 2014, 08:09 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I don't see why goku couldn't use super kaioken. Ssj is practically his base form. He just probably can't take it up to levels as high as he can with his actual base form. For example Idk if he can do super KKx20 but he can do a normal super kaioken like against pikkon. No doubt about it Doubt he can do with ssj2 and ssj3 since he hasn't mastered those And yeah the whole super kaioken>ssj2 is the reason why I think I might start using the 50x ssj multiplier again Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jul 1 2014, 08:11 PM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 1 2014, 08:58 PM Post #9
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Considering Goku was kinda dead when he used it and never again in any sort of filler material, I'm gonna assume he needs to be dead to use it, much like using ssj3 while dead eliminates the stress factor. Why wouldn't he just use Kaioken instead of a 5 times Ssj multiplier? I'unno. I'm sticking with 50 times for now because nothing has indicated a drop. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jul 1 2014, 08:59 PM.
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