Should we question the power of oozaru?

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Should we question the power of oozaru?
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+ Pelador	Jun 30 2014, 09:24 PM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Vegeta stated that his oozarru form was ten times as powerful as his normal form. However Goku was able to damage his eye and for a while evade his attacks. Oozaru Vegeta's speed was nothing like Captain Ginyu's but technically they should have been equal. Even if you use the arguement that Vegeta had lost a lot of power after the battle with Goku, he should still be leagues above Goku if it was truly a ten times increase. What I believe instead is that the raw strength was ten times more as opposed to a general power level increase.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 30 2014, 09:51 PM Post #2
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	It increases battle power, but Goku injuring his eye is the same question I came up with this morning. Vegeta was already injured, but no so much that a generic ki blast, coming from a weakened warrior, can hurt his eye and having him screaming in agony like he did. Chapter: 233 (DBZ 39), P6.2 Oozaru Vegeta: “Wanna hear something good?... When Saiyans become Oozaru, their battle power becomes 10 times what it is as a human!!!!" Edited by Professor Gohan, Jun 30 2014, 09:53 PM.



+ Kaboom	Jun 30 2014, 09:57 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	It's almost as if factors other than raw power (unweildy size, speed, weak spots) had some bearing on the battle! :O



SSJ	Jun 30 2014, 09:59 PM Post #4
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	An eye is a very sensitive organ. No matter how strong you are, any attack to your eye will still hurt. Goku sent ki into Vegeta's eye, so I'm not surprised he was blinded for a while.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 30 2014, 10:02 PM Post #5
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I thought that too. But I thought if a gap was large enough, something like that wouldn't matter.



bardock1990	Jun 30 2014, 10:03 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,078 Group: Member Member #8,530 Joined: November 6, 2012	They can shoot KI from their mouth so that KI attack would be 10 times bigger I think.



+ Clearin	Jun 30 2014, 10:03 PM Post #7
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I could have sworn there was a line where Goku said Vegeta's speed was the same as base, but it appears I may have just made it up. Anyway, what Super Saiyan said, the eye is a sensitive area, plus Vegeta was caught kind of off guard, he wasn't planning Goku to attack and wouldn't have braced for anything.



SSJ	Jun 30 2014, 10:05 PM Post #8
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Professor Gohan Jun 30 2014, 10:02 PM I thought that too. But I thought if a gap was large enough, something like that wouldn't matter. I would agree if it hit his chest, or anywhere else on his body. Goku shot his eye for a reason, it was the only place that he could deal damage to. Edited by SSJ, Jun 30 2014, 10:10 PM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 30 2014, 10:06 PM Post #9
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Super Saiyan Jun 30 2014, 10:05 PM Professor Gohan Jun 30 2014, 10:02 PM I thought that too. But I thought if a gap was large enough, something like that wouldn't matter. I would agree if it hit his chest, or anywhere else on his body. Goku shot his eye for EPA reason, it was the only place that he could deal damage to. True that. I was honestly thinking it was more of a deal for the story, but the sensitive eye deal makes sense. Off guard and not expecting anything as well is bonus.



+ Pelador	Jun 30 2014, 10:07 PM Post #10
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	What about his speed. Would his size mean that he was barely any faster than before despite the huge increase in power? Because someone at 180,000 would usually be popping up behind their opponent at blinding speed.
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* Yu Narukami	Jun 30 2014, 10:07 PM Post #11
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Vegeta was weakened quite a bit before his transformation, what with getting hit with the Kamehameha and creating fake moon. His power was < 18,000 and his speed was likely lowered quite a bit. Kaioken x2/3 Goku > Oozaru Vegeta (Speed) Vegeta : 18,000 Vegeta (Weakened) : 8,000/9,000 Oozaru Vegeta (Weakened) : 80,000/90,000 Something like that. Edited by Yu Narukami, Jun 30 2014, 10:08 PM.



+ Pelador	Jun 30 2014, 10:10 PM Post #12
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Even so he should still be faster than Burter right?
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SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 12:14 AM Post #13
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Pelador Jun 30 2014, 10:10 PM Even so he should still be faster than Burter right? The oozaru speed was stated to be impressive, but only because Vegeta was so large. I think it's best if you consider his speed to remain the same as his base power, but moved into the huge body. If Vegeta had a speed level of 8000, then that would explain Kaioken Goku being able to avoid him. Kaioken Goku may have been at about 12,000 at that point in time, so it all fits in nicely.



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