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Bills? really!
Topic Started: Jun 30 2014, 07:44 AM (3,156 Views)
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Jul 26 2014, 06:49 PM
I just got you reasons. In my first post. I said he doesn't bring anything new and is boring. That's reasons is it not. Goku is naive not goofy. Boo and Beerus personality and background are almost identical.. The length of the "slumber" isn't relevant. They was sleep for extended periods of time with rarely anyone knowing bout them. Reread. I said Ancient Power that causes destruction. Not the amount. Beerus isn't evil but he's not innocent himself. Their backgrounds are identical on paper
No you didn't. You drew baseless parallels. Saying something is the case, doesn't make it the case. Explain yourself. Goku is naive AND goofy. How are Beerus and Buu similar as far as personality goes? Their origin is the same? I explained they were not, but to go into further detail; Beerus is someone whom was hired as the God of Destruction and takes long naps. Buu was a bubble gum demon created by a wizard that gets imprisoned when he gets out of control. How are those the same? An ancient power that causes destruction is a generalization. That's like saying Freeza, Cell, and Buu are the same because they destroy sh** too. Destruction is something they do, not what defines them. Destruction is Beerus' job. Buu's pleasure is chaos, not just destruction. Beerus was a breath of fresh air. For starters he's the first antagonist since Freeza that was just strong. Nothing special like infinite energy, regeneration, copying techniques, etc. Beerus also wasn't even a villain. He was a silly guy that destroys things because it's his job, like I've already said. He was interesting, unlike every other movie villain excluding Cooler, and even then Cooler pales in comparison to Freeza.
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You didn't explain. You just twisted words. Boo was a being from the beginning of universe. Bibidu got a spell to take him. Ancient power. Key word is ancient. Freeza and Cell aren't ancient at ALL. So no it's not a generalzation. Goku isn't goofy after Piccolo. He's naive, selfish, and kind hearted. Beerus a breath of fresh air? Ha! Since we including movies too. AboCado was naturally strong, Hiludagan, Bojack, and please explain how Boo wasn't strong naturally. He had regeneration so? That's naturally. You seemed to not see the fact I've said they CAUSE destruction with ancient power that dates back over 500 years. He's not interesting at all. I'm this Ancient being! With great power. Yay me! All villains with exception of Broly(After first) and that insect dragon was more interesting and great background. Had they gotten more screen time and effort they would be excellent. Beerus failed at that with screen time.

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Yeah, let's all agree to disagree :) It's cool, kids. People can't all be the same, right?
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Jul 26 2014, 06:14 PM
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Jul 25 2014, 12:20 PM
Also his name is Beerus.
I use Beerus, though Beers, Birusu, Bills, or even *sigh* Purple Cat, works.
Bills does not work. It's an improper translation.
I like Bills, too. Bills is probably 1 of my favourite Movie villains. :)
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You didn't explain. You just twisted words. Boo was a being from the beginning of universe. Bibidu got a spell to take him. Ancient power. Key word is ancient. Freeza and Cell aren't ancient at ALL. So no it's not a generalzation. Goku isn't goofy after Piccolo. He's naive, selfish, and kind hearted. Beerus a breath of fresh air? Ha! Since we including movies too. AboCado was naturally strong, Hiludagan, Bojack, and please explain how Boo wasn't strong naturally. He had regeneration so? That's naturally. You seemed to not see the fact I've said they CAUSE destruction with ancient power that dates back over 500 years. He's not interesting at all. I'm this Ancient being! With great power. Yay me! All villains with exception of Broly(After first) and that insect dragon was more interesting and great background. Had they gotten more screen time and effort they would be excellent. Beerus failed at that with screen time.

I believe you're wrong, but I don't think explaining to you why is as important as asking why Beerus being similar to Buu is a problem? Every villain has had similarities to the past one. Cell's personality was similar to Freeza's, Buu's abilities are similar to Cell, etc. I wasn't considering movie villains. Him being an ancient force is not what makes him interesting, but there are differences between his story and Buu's. You're making generalizations, I'll leave it at that. Also, people don't need interesting back stories to make them interesting themselves. Goku's is rather simple, and is pretty much just Superman's origin. He's still an interesting character because of his... well... character. Hirudegarn was just a giant monster sealed in 2 kids(I had to look that up BTW because of what an impression he left on me). Honestly, Hirudegarn is probably my least favorite movie villain. Broly is better than him IMO.
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Jul 26 2014, 08:23 PM
I believe you're wrong, but I don't think explaining to you why is as important as asking why Beerus being similar to Buu is a problem? Every villain has had similarities to the past one. Cell's personality was similar to Freeza's, Buu's abilities are similar to Cell, etc. I wasn't considering movie villains. Him being an ancient force is not what makes him interesting, but there are differences between his story and Buu's. You're making generalizations, I'll leave it at that. Also, people don't need interesting back stories to make them interesting themselves. Goku's is rather simple, and is pretty much just Superman's origin. He's still an interesting character because of his... well... character. Hirudegarn was just a giant monster sealed in 2 kids(I had to look that up BTW because of what an impression he left on me). Honestly, Hirudegarn is probably my least favorite movie villain. Broly is better than him IMO.
Sorry Prince, I'm backing Goken on this one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but technically Beerus isn't a villain. He's not evil, his job is literally blowing things up to keep balance. Like sending souls to Heaven or Hell is King Yemna's job. And doing whatever King Kai does is King Kai's job (Seriously, what do the non-supreme Kai's do again actually?) I'll definetly give you that he's got an interesting personality. He's a gourmet and kinda nice, except when he's being a jerk. But in fairness, he's only a jerk to other jerks (King Vegeta, Frieza, Majin Buu) so that's not a big deal. He has no villainous motivation at all, because he's not actually evil. It's like being a salesman. You don't like it, you just do it until you finish your undergrad then move on (Guess who used to be a salesman). Beerus is a God of Destruction, it's what he does, end of story.

Now there are significantly more interesting and creative villains, such as Frieza, Cell, the Androids, Lord Slug and the Ginyu force, each with their own quirks, unique abilities and what not. I'm glad he couldn't magically regen and actually had a reason for being absurdly strong, but that's about it. Wouldn't mind seeing him in a few other forms of media, but Beerus isn't quite villian material. Or really antagonist material, technically the Z-Fighters antagonized him, he was just trying to get some dessert and Buu was being a prick. So, yeah, there's that.
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