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Future Saga Gaps
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* Yu Narukami	Jul 1 2014, 01:25 AM Post #46
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Alex ClownBoss Jul 1 2014, 01:24 AM Naked Snake Jul 1 2014, 01:20 AM Alex ClownBoss Jul 1 2014, 01:17 AM Miles? Focusing on DD section aren't ya xD I'm heading to bed soon, actually. DD, while interesting, isn't really taking as much focus as I expected it to. Ah I see man. Hope to see you recovering soon from the medical machine. Goodnight mate. I'll talk to you later, man!



SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 01:30 AM Post #47
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Can anyone answer my question? Was it in the anime or manga where Vegeta was portrayed as a SSJ in the future?



+ Kyouks	Jul 1 2014, 01:30 AM Post #48
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* Yu Narukami	Jul 1 2014, 01:31 AM Post #49
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Super Saiyan Jul 1 2014, 01:30 AM Can anyone answer my question? Was it in the anime or manga where Vegeta was portrayed as a SSJ in the future? My parting gift It was the History of Trunks special, iirc. I don't remember seeing a future SSJ Vegeta in any part of the manga.



SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 01:32 AM Post #50
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Okay never mind then, that's a useless piece of information. Though I can see where Pel is coming from. Vegeta trained when he was the strongest Saiyan while under Freeza's control. What's to say he would "slow down" or become less ambitious? He is a Saiyan who craves power, and he also desires to fulfill the Saiyan legend. Knowing Goku did it wouldn't sit well with him, even if Goku was dead. Edited by SSJ, Jul 1 2014, 01:32 AM.



~~Victorious~~	Jul 1 2014, 01:59 AM Post #51
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	You can do Future saga gaps with Future Vegeta being an SSJ. It should logically require however that 2 armed SSJ Future Gohan being stronger than SSJ Future Vegeta @ death though. Example With Future Vegeta being SSJ Very heavy bloat SSJ Namek Goku : 150,000,000 Mecha Freeza : 160,000,000 hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Trunks arc) : 175,000,000 hypothetical SSJ Future Vegeta : 240,000,000 SSJ Future Gohan 2 arms : 280,000,000 40% Future Android #17 : 330,000,000 SSJ Future Gohan 1 arm : 360,000,000 SSJ Future Trunks age 17 : 400,000,000 SSJ Yardrat Goku : 500,000,000 Example with Future Vegeta not being SSJ. Still bloated but not as much. Namek Goku : 150,000,000 Mecha Freeza : 160,000,000 Future Gohan 2 arms : 175,000,000 40% Future #17 : 200,000,000 Future Gohan 1 arm : 220,000,000 Future Trunks age 17 : 240,000,000 Yardrat Goku : 300,000,000 Edited by Victorious, Jul 1 2014, 02:03 AM.
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Alex D. Boss	Jul 1 2014, 02:02 AM Post #52
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	You sure Vegeta is that strong , Vic ?



~~Victorious~~	Jul 1 2014, 02:05 AM Post #53
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Alex ClownBoss Jul 1 2014, 02:02 AM You sure Vegeta is that strong , Vic ? Well the question is WHere would you place Vegeta to Goku on Namek. 1 year and 260 days later is the Mecha Freeza arc. Has he reached base Goku's level by this time? I personally think he and Piccolo have surpassed base on Namek here. Obviously 3 years later, despite no information about a coming android apocalypse he should be much stronger than he was in the mecha arc. Vegeta does not stop training.
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SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 02:09 AM Post #54
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	I don't think he would have been training for that whole time. It would have taken him a little time to get to Yardrat, and I don't think it was stated that they had advanced medication. He likely would have had to heal up the old fashioned way, which would have taken ages. And he spent a bulky amount of time mastering the Shunkan Ido, which would not cause him to gain power. I don't see him surpassing 250 if Namek Goku is 150.



Alex D. Boss	Jul 1 2014, 02:12 AM Post #55
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	I agree with SSJ2. We don't even know for sure how much Vegeta trained, or trained the same way to push himself to the limits like he did in the present timeline. Him being slightly above or around Mecha Frieza tier is the most thinkable thing we can use for him.



~~Victorious~~	Jul 1 2014, 02:18 AM Post #56
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Mecha Freeza is barely over Namek Goku. So you're saying Vegeta's base in nearly 5 years went from where it was on Namek to barely over Namek Goku? Vegeta never stops training and is obsessed with catching Goku's power.
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SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 02:19 AM Post #57
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Training =\= quality gains. Look at Son Goku in the 7 year gap. He goes from being ~ 1.3x weaker than Son Gohan to being just barely stronger.



~~Victorious~~	Jul 1 2014, 02:24 AM Post #58
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Yeah I agree with that, but that's when Goku's base hit sort of a wall. I think there is a pre RoSaT wall and a post RoSaT wall. Goku and Gohan are in your situation gaining on the post RoSaT wall. The pre RoSaT wall is only close to being hit in the Android saga IMO. Edited by Victorious, Jul 1 2014, 02:24 AM.
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SSJ	Jul 1 2014, 02:31 AM Post #59
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	I think Vegeta could be at that wall in the Yardrat time gap. Consider how many Zenkais he had just had on Namek and even earth prior to that. His body had been forcing itself to become stronger and stronger, so it may have stalled out in terms of gains. It's like working out. If you keep working out you will get stronger, but then you'll sort of plateau at a certain level and will not make gains. Vegeta's body was working it's hidden reserves, and constantly calling on it for more power. He would have peaked eventually, and would have to find a way to break through that wall. I think he broke through it in the three year gap by gravity training. I can't recall if he used gravity training during the Yardrat time skip, but if not, it's the perfect explanation. He exposed his body to greater stress and a completely new form of training, ultimately allowing himself to pass the wall, and reach uncharted territories of power. Edited by SSJ, Jul 1 2014, 02:32 AM.



~~Victorious~~	Jul 1 2014, 02:43 AM Post #60
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	Vegeta still manages to knock up Bulma in the Future Timeline so he's definitely hanging around the Capsule corp and probaly would be gravity training. Hell that's probably how he met Bulma. Keep in mind having Future Vegeta SSJ means he's still far far weaker than he was in the main timeline..he has to be logically weaker by a noticeable margin by Future SSJ Gohan 2 armed. And even 1 armed Future Gohan would get one shotted by normal timeline SSJ Vegeta in the Android saga. I think Vegeta and Piccolo are already around base Goku Namek by the Mecha Freeza saga. So Vegeta just getting a 1.33x boost from the the 3 years in the Future Timeline doesnt seemed far fetched. But again, canon wise you don't even have to have Future Vegeta have SSJ. I would just like to have Future Vegeta stronger than Future Piccolo. And if Future Vegeta doesnt have SSJ he gets stomped by Future Piccolo IMO.
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