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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:26 PM Post #61 |
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If you want to get back on track, fine. To take BOG seriously, you have to ignore years of continuity that came before it. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:26 PM Post #62 |
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Yeah, and Toriyama was responsible for that!? All this time I thought it was a suggestion from Watanabe XD.
That's lazy, and you know that's not true. This is Dragon Ball. If Gotenks can get more than 50 times stronger than less than 10 days, Goku and Vegeta can get waaaaaaaaaaay stronger in 5 years. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 29 2014, 10:29 PM.
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:31 PM Post #63 |
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Vegeta didn't pass Gohan o.O He was only stated to pass Goku. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:33 PM Post #64 |
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Yeah, but Vegeta and Goku are the only ones Beerus thought highly of at the end of the film. Plus, Vegeta has a feat over Gohan. Gohan was brushed aside, but Vegeta actually managed to tank a hit and dish some "damage". |
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:35 PM Post #65 |
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Beerus wasn't using the same power vs everyone, otherwise he would have murdered #18, Tien, Boo and Piccolo. Heck Boo even put up a bigger fight than Gohan in the extended version of the film. There is evidence that at the very least SSj Gotenks is above Goku, since after Beerus beats him Vegeta says Beerus is even stronger than he imagined (paraphrasing), but if SSj3 Goku was stronger beating SSj Gotenks wouldn't have given Vegeta that impression at all. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:35 PM Post #66 |
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I'm not talking about current strength, I'm talking about Potential... it's in the title. If Kakarrot and Vegeta surpassing Gohan in 5 years... I could see Kakarrot, but Vegeta would be very unlikely. As for Potential... it was shown all through DBZ that Hybrids>Full Blooded Saiyan and that Gohan has a higher Potential that Kakarrot and Vegeta. So, can you really go by BOG because AT would be contradicting himself. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:39 PM Post #67 |
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Yeah, but like I said, Beerus only found Vegeta and Goku noteworthy. Also, Vegeta isn't necessarily saying that in regards to Gotenks. What Beerus has to say is at least concrete. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:44 PM Post #68 |
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That would mean that he could sense someone's Potential, and like I said I can buy Kakarrot making that jump, but Vegeta trained for 7 years and barely surpassed Cell Games Gohan. There's no way in 5 years Vegeta could pull it off, if he couldn't make an increase like that in 7 years. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:44 PM Post #69 |
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Who is Vegeta referring to then? If Goku was stronger than Gohan, and Vegeta knows Beerus could stomp Goku in 2 hits, what feat could Beerus have accomplished that made him stronger than Vegeta expected? |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:45 PM Post #70 |
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Unless his potential got a boost, which is what I've theorized happened after Vegetto was diffused.
He's just saying he's stronger than he imagined. This could be made evident by the lack of effort he puts into fighting. Again, Beerus claiming Goku and Vegeta have nearly limitless potential is at least concrete. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 29 2014, 10:48 PM.
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:46 PM Post #71 |
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That would be fine if it was stated, but it never was or referred to in any way at all. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:49 PM Post #72 |
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It doesn't have to be to be true. A lot can also happen in 5 years for their potential limits to skyrocket. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:51 PM Post #73 |
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But it doesn't work because everything from the Saiyan arc all the way to Boo that Hybrids > Full Blooded saiyans. So, to go with what you're saying, you would have to either ignore it or prove that it's changed and it would have to be stated. That would still be ignoring several arcs that was shown. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:54 PM Post #74 |
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All that means is that if Goku and Gohan had equal power levels, Gohan would simply have more potential. Goku can be stronger than Gohan, as made evident by pretty much any point pre Cell Games. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:56 PM Post #75 |
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And I said that too. I said that Kakarrot could be stronger, but it was established that Gohan had a higher Potential. |
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