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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 09:19 PM Post #46 |
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It's said AT rewrote the Original Screenplay, not that his rewrite was the only one. Get your facts straight and make sure it's the only one before you hold it as 100% fact. Or what, are you going to hide behind your staff position instead of showing me a director isn't over the writer. |
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| + Emmeth | Jun 29 2014, 09:27 PM Post #47 |
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Not sure how my staff position has anything to do with this discussion.
I am not the one to believe Toriyama's close acquintances would change the script dramatically. Like Clearin already said, Akira Toriyama is the original author/creator of Dragonball, so the situation is hardly the same as any other Hollywood production. Additionally:
His tone here, along with the fact that the movie is actually set in the main timeline, makes me think it's canon. Edited by Emmeth, Jun 29 2014, 09:35 PM.
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 09:41 PM Post #48 |
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So since AT is involved there's an exception to film making? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. |
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| + Emmeth | Jun 29 2014, 09:43 PM Post #49 |
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I'm done discussing with you. You've been on the verge of insulting me several times and you're incredibly stubborn. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 09:47 PM Post #50 |
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Then prove to me that AT got special treatment than other film makers. Then I'll take you seriously, until then you shouldn't be. Because you said I was wrong about something, then I backed up what I said, and instead of proving me wrong, you dismiss it and say you're done. Edited by Saberoph, Jun 29 2014, 09:50 PM.
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| + Emmeth | Jun 29 2014, 09:53 PM Post #51 |
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For the love of Batman... I haven't dismissed anything, it's you who can't realize that AT is actually the original creator and should get special treatment. He IS Dragonball and he is heavily involved with the production. Don't generalize this case just because "directors has the final say". Jesus. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 09:58 PM Post #52 |
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Yeah, you didn't dismiss anything. I must be seeing things. I backed up my mouth, now it's your turn. Until you back up your mouth, to me you're a troll and will be and I really don't care who I piss off either. Also, it's still film making. It doesn't matter if AT made DB or not. His work didn't get that treatment when the Anime wad made... it got s*** on. Edited by Saberoph, Jun 29 2014, 10:01 PM.
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:11 PM Post #53 |
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Toriyama was only supposed to look over the scenario, he wasn't even supposed to do anything himself but they allowed him to rewrite the entire story, doesn't that count as special treatment?
Toriyama's script was so long that it actually had to be cut down, so the movie shouldn't contain any of Toei's own material if they couldn't even fit all of Toriyama's in, like he originally thought would happen.
Same question as the first but with a more detailed answer. Toriyama looked over everything, including the dialogue and changed it all.
The main line here is "Everyone on the staff made [the movie] according to the scenario I wrote" But since I'm completely unbias here, here's something that supports Saber:
The whole thing is basically Toriyama admitting he doesn't care if other people change his work but look at the last line. He says he wouldn't have minded if they changed MORE, meaning they did change some stuff at least.
Toriyama once again stating that it become "more enjoyable" due to other peoples alternations. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:11 PM Post #54 |
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Prove to me that Toriyama's version of the script was changed in the script to screen transition. Until then, don't expect us to take you seriously. The funny part is though, even if you prove that his version of the script was edited, it's no different than Toriyama's editor telling him to change things about the manga. It's canon regardless as far as I'm concerned. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:16 PM Post #55 |
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Then show me where AT actually says BOG is canon to the Manga. I'll be waiting for those exact words... good luck.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:18 PM Post #56 |
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Prove to me that Toriyama said the manga was canon. Toriyama probably doesn't even know what the term means. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 29 2014, 10:19 PM Post #57 |
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So, when I challenge you... instead of backing it up, you instead tell me to do something. Wow, how about back it up before you challenge someone else. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:21 PM Post #58 |
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Another relevant quote:
Particularly: "Since the creator was the one making the changes, I suppose I may have caused a lot of trouble for the production side of things." He is literally saying he got special treatment because he was the creator. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2014, 10:23 PM Post #59 |
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Haven't you just been doing that this whole time? Anyway, my post has a point. Toriyama hasn't even declared a canon. Anyway, I think this conversation is over. You're posts are conjectural, and you've been ignorant to most of the evidence I've provided for my point of view. I think it's time we got this thread back on track, which is about Goku and Vegeta's seemingly greater potential in Battle of Gods. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2014, 10:25 PM Post #60 |
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Wait, this argument is about Vegeta's rage boost, right?
Toriyama takes full credit for that right here. At least, I assume that's what "Vegeta's breakdown" refers to. |
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