did mr. satan break the normal human barrier ?

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did mr. satan break the normal human barrier ?
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Shazam	Jun 25 2014, 08:19 PM Post #1
The Knight Who Say Ni Posts: 163 Group: Member Member #11,415 Joined: June 8, 2014 Favourite Anime The Irresponsible Captain Tylor What Browser do you use? firefox	master roshi on DB trained goku and krillin how to break the human limits and do the things others cant. did mr. satan break this limit and just stayed there without going even further like the Z Fighters did ? we did see him perform feats that normal humans couldnt ever perform. strength, durability and speed.



+ Pelador	Jun 25 2014, 08:21 PM Post #2
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Nah I don't think so. He seemed to be at the level of a typical strongman. Pulling buses and planes and karate chopping bricks. He wasn't superhuman.
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SSJ	Jun 25 2014, 08:23 PM Post #3
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	No way. He can break a few tiles, big deal. Roshi said they surpassed the wall of ordinary humans at the 22nd Budokai, and Satan doesn't match up against anyone there. Edited by SSJ, Jun 25 2014, 08:23 PM.



Andro	Jun 25 2014, 08:23 PM Post #4
Posts: 1,854 Group: Member Member #7,941 Joined: July 13, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None	I think yes. He can break a dozen bricks at once, fall from high distances landing on his head and survive, beat normal humans very easily etc. Well, he may not be as strong as Gokuu and Kuririn where when they broke the barrier, but that doesn't mean that he couldn't. If he went through the same training as they did and had the same will and determination he would become strong. That goes for all fighters in DB. There's no limit on the strength they can build.



Alex D. Boss	Jun 25 2014, 08:24 PM Post #5
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	I don't even think that Satan is the strongest of all normal humans. I think he is just a commercial good fighter with so much money and power.



+ Pelador	Jun 25 2014, 08:26 PM Post #6
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	The topic isn't asking about potential. It's asking if he did. Which he didn't. We never even saw how fast he could move. People have survived falls from high places and walked away with bruises. Doesn't mean they're super human. The human body is just weird sometimes.
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Muyasuki	Jun 26 2014, 03:17 AM Post #7
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	We have a general idea of where he is power wise. He's weaker than Bob Sapp: a normal human.



DSTREET45	Jun 26 2014, 05:13 AM Post #8
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Muyasuki Jun 26 2014, 03:17 AM We have a general idea of where he is power wise. He's weaker than Bob Sapp: a normal human. Didn't Toriyama say that jokingly? Either way no. Mark is strong apparently very strong compared to a normal human according to Toriyama, but he never broke the normal human barrier.



Mike XL	Jun 26 2014, 05:31 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	He couldn't take a bullet, something Krillen and Goku could early in Dragonball, before they were stated to have surpassed human limits, so I'm going to say no.



+ Clearin	Jun 26 2014, 05:42 PM Post #10
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Mike XL Jun 26 2014, 05:31 PM He couldn't take a bullet, something Krillen and Goku could early in Dragonball, before they were stated to have surpassed human limits, so I'm going to say no. Krillin "taking bullets" was purely gag. Earlier, in that exact same chapter he was scared of guns. Not to mention the fact Roshi, who should be taking bullets easier than either of them, had at least 2 bullet holes through his skull (this may have been the case for Goku and Krillin as well but we didn't see the back of their heads). No one is going to be conscious with 2 bullets through their skull, and even if the ones that went in Krillin didn't come out the other side they still left decent holes in them, deep enough that the bullet penetrated all the way in at least. Yet the very next page, which takes place minutes later, they're all completely fine. I don't use the "gag" excuse much, but when you have a scene earlier in the same chapter of Krillin admitting that guns are deadly to him in a scene that is actually pretty serious by early Dragon Ball standards, it's hard to take a scene where he survives an obviously deadly injury and is fine by the next page without passing it off as a gag.



Mike XL	Jun 26 2014, 05:46 PM Post #11
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Clearin Jun 26 2014, 05:42 PM Mike XL Jun 26 2014, 05:31 PM He couldn't take a bullet, something Krillen and Goku could early in Dragonball, before they were stated to have surpassed human limits, so I'm going to say no. Krillin "taking bullets" was purely gag. Earlier, in that exact same chapter he was scared of guns. Not to mention the fact Roshi, who should be taking bullets easier than either of them, had at least 2 bullet holes through his skull (this may have been the case for Goku and Krillin as well but we didn't see the back of their heads). No one is going to be conscious with 2 bullets through their skull, and even if the ones that went in Krillin didn't come out the other side they still left decent holes in them, deep enough that the bullet penetrated all the way in at least. Yet the very next page, which takes place minutes later, they're all completely fine. I don't use the "gag" excuse much, but when you have a scene earlier in the same chapter of Krillin admitting that guns are deadly to him in a scene that is actually pretty serious by early Dragon Ball standards, it's hard to take a scene where he survives an obviously deadly injury and is fine by the next page without passing it off as a gag. What kind of gun and bullet scared Krillen? I don't remember. I also remember Goku tanking the s*** out of a Red Ribbon sniper, but I don't remember if I read or watched that scene, so I don't know if it's canon for sure.



+ Clearin	Jun 26 2014, 05:52 PM Post #12
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I'm absolutely awful at identifying guns, but the cops had some kind of hand gun and Launch had some kind of Machine Gun. And I have no problems with Goku taking bullets since he was shown to be able to do so in the first chapter in a semi-serious (again, by early Dragon Ball standards) scene. Krillin has shown to fear guns so at the very least they'll be causing serious injury to him, and if the scene where Launch shot him was played seriously he would have suffered those serious injuries considering they penetrated his head (and in Roshi's case came right out the other side). But I'm talking about pre-Roshi training anyway, which is what I thought you meant, and the sniper scene obviously takes place after that (It is canon though, from what I remember). Krillin post-training should be stronger than BoDB Goku, and thus should be able to take bullets then too.



AA500	Jun 26 2014, 05:56 PM Post #13
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Perhaps Krillin only thought he would get killed by bullets, normal humans get killed by them all the time and Krillin may have thought he was still a normal human. He never got shot before so he wouldn't know for sure.



+ Clearin	Jun 26 2014, 05:59 PM Post #14
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	It doesn't change the fact that bullets went inside his head, possibly even coming out the other side considering it happened to Roshi, and he suffered no serious injuries at all.



+ Pointer	Jun 26 2014, 06:44 PM Post #15
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	No The man was equal to Bruce Lee at most



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