Father Brofist

Jun 21 2014, 03:07 PM

Anyone who uses the 50% Goku argument should be smacked. I see it as just a piss poor argument for the anti-Broly fanboys to make Broly weaker than he really is. Its even worse when people try to use this 50% argument, like people don't know how to simple mathematics. It makes absolutely no sense to use that kind of logic, its terribly flawed and contradictory.

You realize the flaw with the 50% argument right people? Its because if yo have 50%...then you have to have a 100%. But you know what, 50% don't mean jack squat here. Goku could use 2% of his power at Korin's and it wouldn't mean jack spiddly doo dah. Because Goku makes no increases after leaving the ROSAT. Post-ROSAT Goku=Cell Games Goku.

Now unless you can imply that Movie 8 Goku is not the same as Post-ROSAT Goku...and Gohan being an SSJ in movie 8 makes that horribly difficult and there's is a whopping zero evidence of Goku not being Post-ROSAT. Well that makes it very difficult for Movie 8 Goku to...not be Cell Games level.

Seriously its like me saying Movie 7 Goku was only at 25% of his power because he balls got punched out and if he was at full power he could take on Fat Boo. Some people will do anything to BS the series.

This ideology of 50% Goku in movie 8 I think may very well be the stupidest thing I've ever had to deal with and I'm sorry...ok not really....but I'm not going to be nice about it. Once you find argument that Goku didn't get the full ROSAT training, then we'll talk. And the evidence for that is a whopping flip zero that I see. Some people try to make some claim that Vegeta killed Semi-Cell and Goku and Gohan got out early.

Yeah well I can make just as much of argument where Goku told Vegeta to suck his nuts and slammed the ROSAT door in his face and continued training for a year.

miguelnuva

Jun 25 2014, 07:28 AM

Father Brofist

Jun 21 2014, 03:07 PM

Anyone who uses the 50% Goku argument should be smacked. I see it as just a piss poor argument for the anti-Broly fanboys to make Broly weaker than he really is. Its even worse when people try to use this 50% argument, like people don't know how to simple mathematics. It makes absolutely no sense to use that kind of logic, its terribly flawed and contradictory.

You realize the flaw with the 50% argument right people? Its because if yo have 50%...then you have to have a 100%. But you know what, 50% don't mean jack squat here. Goku could use 2% of his power at Korin's and it wouldn't mean jack spiddly doo dah. Because Goku makes no increases after leaving the ROSAT. Post-ROSAT Goku=Cell Games Goku.

Now unless you can imply that Movie 8 Goku is not the same as Post-ROSAT Goku...and Gohan being an SSJ in movie 8 makes that horribly difficult and there's is a whopping zero evidence of Goku not being Post-ROSAT. Well that makes it very difficult for Movie 8 Goku to...not be Cell Games level.

Seriously its like me saying Movie 7 Goku was only at 25% of his power because he balls got punched out and if he was at full power he could take on Fat Boo. Some people will do anything to BS the series.

This ideology of 50% Goku in movie 8 I think may very well be the stupidest thing I've ever had to deal with and I'm sorry...ok not really....but I'm not going to be nice about it. Once you find argument that Goku didn't get the full ROSAT training, then we'll talk. And the evidence for that is a whopping flip zero that I see. Some people try to make some claim that Vegeta killed Semi-Cell and Goku and Gohan got out early.

Yeah well I can make just as much of argument where Goku told Vegeta to suck his nuts and slammed the ROSAT door in his face and continued training for a year.

The argument is only flaws because you arguing something completely different. Those that say M8 Goku is 50% of CG Goku is that

100% M8 Goku= 50% CG Goku, not that Goku was only fighting with 50%.

Goku and Gohan have both clearly not gained as much from the ROSAT in M8 as they do in canon due to fact their not MSSJs and for all we know they might not have even used the ROSAT because M8 is a non canon movie. Gohan could have become a SSJ just training with Goku for all we know,

The fact that Goku is stronger than Gohan, he is not in SSJ form( GOhan not being in SSJ form is a bigger nod due to the fact that he wasn't at the school meeting) and then the fact that Vegeta is treated as such a big need for Goku when in the manga Vegeta 1st ROSAT is crap to 50% are all nods to M8 Goku being different from CG Goku.

Ssj3vegito96

Jun 28 2014, 02:45 AM

miguelnuva

Jun 25 2014, 07:28 AM

Father Brofist

Jun 21 2014, 03:07 PM

Anyone who uses the 50% Goku argument should be smacked. I see it as just a piss poor argument for the anti-Broly fanboys to make Broly weaker than he really is. Its even worse when people try to use this 50% argument, like people don't know how to simple mathematics. It makes absolutely no sense to use that kind of logic, its terribly flawed and contradictory.

You realize the flaw with the 50% argument right people? Its because if yo have 50%...then you have to have a 100%. But you know what, 50% don't mean jack squat here. Goku could use 2% of his power at Korin's and it wouldn't mean jack spiddly doo dah. Because Goku makes no increases after leaving the ROSAT. Post-ROSAT Goku=Cell Games Goku.

Now unless you can imply that Movie 8 Goku is not the same as Post-ROSAT Goku...and Gohan being an SSJ in movie 8 makes that horribly difficult and there's is a whopping zero evidence of Goku not being Post-ROSAT. Well that makes it very difficult for Movie 8 Goku to...not be Cell Games level.

Seriously its like me saying Movie 7 Goku was only at 25% of his power because he balls got punched out and if he was at full power he could take on Fat Boo. Some people will do anything to BS the series.

This ideology of 50% Goku in movie 8 I think may very well be the stupidest thing I've ever had to deal with and I'm sorry...ok not really....but I'm not going to be nice about it. Once you find argument that Goku didn't get the full ROSAT training, then we'll talk. And the evidence for that is a whopping flip zero that I see. Some people try to make some claim that Vegeta killed Semi-Cell and Goku and Gohan got out early.

Yeah well I can make just as much of argument where Goku told Vegeta to suck his nuts and slammed the ROSAT door in his face and continued training for a year.

The argument is only flaws because you arguing something completely different. Those that say M8 Goku is 50% of CG Goku is that

100% M8 Goku= 50% CG Goku, not that Goku was only fighting with 50%.

Goku and Gohan have both clearly not gained as much from the ROSAT in M8 as they do in canon due to fact their not MSSJs and for all we know they might not have even used the ROSAT because M8 is a non canon movie. Gohan could have become a SSJ just training with Goku for all we know,

The fact that Goku is stronger than Gohan, he is not in SSJ form( GOhan not being in SSJ form is a bigger nod due to the fact that he wasn't at the school meeting) and then the fact that Vegeta is treated as such a big need for Goku when in the manga Vegeta 1st ROSAT is crap to 50% are all nods to M8 Goku being different from CG Goku.

How can gohan not have been in ROSAT? He's older just like he was in the series

I think Gohan was weaker than everyone else because M8 was made before we learned in the manga that gohan was actually stronger than even goku and toei probably didn't know that he was supposed to be that strong

As for goku, why would toei use the 50% goku we saw in the manga? Even if we didn't get to see goku at full power before M8 was made, I'm sure toei intended goku be at whatever his full power is supposed to be

Father Brofist

Jun 21 2014, 03:07 PM

Anyone who uses the 50% Goku argument should be smacked. I see it as just a piss poor argument for the anti-Broly fanboys to make Broly weaker than he really is. Its even worse when people try to use this 50% argument, like people don't know how to simple mathematics. It makes absolutely no sense to use that kind of logic, its terribly flawed and contradictory.

You realize the flaw with the 50% argument right people? Its because if yo have 50%...then you have to have a 100%. But you know what, 50% don't mean jack squat here. Goku could use 2% of his power at Korin's and it wouldn't mean jack spiddly doo dah. Because Goku makes no increases after leaving the ROSAT. Post-ROSAT Goku=Cell Games Goku.

Now unless you can imply that Movie 8 Goku is not the same as Post-ROSAT Goku...and Gohan being an SSJ in movie 8 makes that horribly difficult and there's is a whopping zero evidence of Goku not being Post-ROSAT. Well that makes it very difficult for Movie 8 Goku to...not be Cell Games level.

Seriously its like me saying Movie 7 Goku was only at 25% of his power because he balls got punched out and if he was at full power he could take on Fat Boo. Some people will do anything to BS the series.

This ideology of 50% Goku in movie 8 I think may very well be the stupidest thing I've ever had to deal with and I'm sorry...ok not really....but I'm not going to be nice about it. Once you find argument that Goku didn't get the full ROSAT training, then we'll talk. And the evidence for that is a whopping flip zero that I see. Some people try to make some claim that Vegeta killed Semi-Cell and Goku and Gohan got out early.

Yeah well I can make just as much of argument where Goku told Vegeta to suck his nuts and slammed the ROSAT door in his face and continued training for a year.

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 04:05 AM

That is a post that brings nothing to this discussion Crow. And is that not a good thing that his mind looks for perfect logic? Why would you want to use imperfect logic? That would mean your argument is flawed, and incorrect.

Also verbally warning you to stop telling people to calm down. We can deal with that if it's necessary.

Crow

Jun 30 2014, 04:45 AM

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 04:05 AM

That is a post that brings nothing to this discussion Crow. And is that not a good thing that his mind looks for perfect logic? Why would you want to use imperfect logic? That would mean your argument is flawed, and incorrect.

Also verbally warning you to stop telling people to calm down. We can deal with that if it's necessary.

Really? After everything Sir Lancelot has said.

But very well, can't argue with you after all.

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 05:00 AM

Crow

Jun 30 2014, 04:45 AM

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 04:05 AM

That is a post that brings nothing to this discussion Crow. And is that not a good thing that his mind looks for perfect logic? Why would you want to use imperfect logic? That would mean your argument is flawed, and incorrect.

Also verbally warning you to stop telling people to calm down. We can deal with that if it's necessary.

Really? After everything Sir Lancelot has said.

But very well, can't argue with you after all.

If you know Brofist well, you know that he is generally speaking in a joking tone. Don't take too much from what he said there...

And of course you can argue with me all you want, I'm just another member on this forum. Take this to pm if you wish.

Crow

Jun 30 2014, 05:55 AM

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 05:00 AM

Crow

Jun 30 2014, 04:45 AM

Super Saiyan

Jun 30 2014, 04:05 AM

That is a post that brings nothing to this discussion Crow. And is that not a good thing that his mind looks for perfect logic? Why would you want to use imperfect logic? That would mean your argument is flawed, and incorrect.

Also verbally warning you to stop telling people to calm down. We can deal with that if it's necessary.

Really? After everything Sir Lancelot has said.

But very well, can't argue with you after all.

If you know Brofist well, you know that he is generally speaking in a joking tone. Don't take too much from what he said there...

And of course you can argue with me all you want, I'm just another member on this forum. Take this to pm if you wish.

See it as a jokative tone if you wish, I see it as plain rude to those who just have an opinion, in which I will treat rude people as so they deserve.