Goku's first transformation question

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Goku's first transformation question
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+ Pelador	Jun 10 2014, 07:47 PM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Considering the exhausting battle that had previously unfolded, is it not possible that Goku's first Super Saiyan form was significantly weaker than what it would have been had he done it before the fight began? I don't believe that transforming like that would automatically heal any injuries or recover stamina. I mean why would it? It's just a power gain.
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Dankness Lava	Jun 10 2014, 11:47 PM Post #2
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	It's transforming his body, so yeah it healed him.



+ Pelador	Jun 10 2014, 11:59 PM Post #3
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	It makes everything stronger and faster but it's not like Freeza or Cell where it's an entirely new body. If he had busted ribs in base, he would still have busted ribs as a Super Saiyan.
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Dankness Lava	Jun 11 2014, 12:20 AM Post #4
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	That does make perfect sense, but he didn't act fatigued at all in the fight.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 11 2014, 12:22 AM Post #5
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Perhaps because the author wanted to make it epic final battle-ish. Two full powers clashing for the sake of the universe.



Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 11 2014, 12:25 AM Post #6
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Not to mention Goku was likely pissed and pure rage fueled him for awhile. Likely that or adrenaline and he just forgot the pain. Super Saiyan makes a change in ki, it doesn't heal.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 11 2014, 12:29 AM Post #7
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	He was too dumb to know better. I most definitely agree. A little scratch or two can't stop a pissed off force.



+ Pelador	Jun 11 2014, 12:49 AM Post #8
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	So you think had he been fresh before the transformation, he'd have been stronger? Or maybe just his power wouldn't have depleted as quickly?
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Vertical	Jun 11 2014, 01:13 AM Post #9
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Pelador Jun 11 2014, 12:49 AM So you think had he been fresh before the transformation, he'd have been stronger? Same power. Adrenaline and rage allowed him to ignore (not only mentally) his injuries and fatigue. Pelador Jun 11 2014, 12:49 AM Or maybe just his power wouldn't have depleted as quickly? His power did what now?
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+ Pelador	Jun 11 2014, 01:19 AM Post #10
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Wasn't it stated that his energy was dropping quite a bit near the end of the fight but not nearly as much as Freezas? They'd been fighting for a good while and Super Saiyan at that point was quite draining. It would make sense that his reserves would have been a lot higher had he been fresh from the start.
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Vertical	Jun 11 2014, 01:34 AM Post #11
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Pelador Jun 11 2014, 01:19 AM Wasn't it stated that his energy was dropping quite a bit near the end of the fight but not nearly as much as Freezas? Not as far as I can remember (though I'm at work and cannot check). Pelador Jun 11 2014, 01:19 AM They'd been fighting for a good while and Super Saiyan at that point was quite draining. Said no one ever. This is just a misinterpretation based on what people believe MSSJ/FPSSJ/SSJ Grade 4 to be. Pelador Jun 11 2014, 01:19 AM It would make sense that his reserves would have been a lot higher had he been fresh from the start. His reserves shouldn't change at all... the power would still all be there but his mental and physical condition should determine how much of it he's able to access. Though, towards the end of the fight... after he'd worked out a bit of his rage and his adrenaline had dropped a bit.... I could see him being a little weaker than his initial transformation. Nothing extremely noticeable though, until the situation was actually over and he KO'd in the Ginyu pod or something.
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~~King Kakarot~~	Jun 11 2014, 01:55 AM Post #12
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Ssj does heal Thats how akira was implying it



Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 11 2014, 01:57 AM Post #13
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	I don't remember that being implied. I remember it being implied that because Goku was so angry and most likely had adrenaline going through his body alongside his stupidity he just didn't feel it.
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+ Steve	Jun 11 2014, 02:04 AM Post #14
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Considering SSj amplifies what a person has if Goku was down to 50% of his max energy at the time of transforming should he not be significantly weaker? I don't think it would be so linear as being half as strong but once they're down to like 10% of their energy I doubt they hit half as hard as they do at 100% So yeah I think he would had to have been significantly weaker unless he had all of his energy which obviously he didn't. Fatigue from Kaioken could also have been a factor his muscles and everything were probably at their limit before he transformed, then they go and get their power amplified. If he'd went Super right at the beginning of the fight he'd probably have mopped the floor with Frieza by accident with his power advantage. This makes his boost from Yardrat seem way more believable, maybe there wasn't even a boost he just got to train with his 100%. I mean how on earth would he get that much more powerful unless the people on Yardrat had comparable strength to Super Saiyans? Fairly sure Frieza would have wanted them dead long ago. Also explains Vegeta being as strong or stronger than Goku in little time they just never increased much from their initial 100% which was just a lot stronger than Goku's first transformation.
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~~King Kakarot~~	Jun 11 2014, 02:06 AM Post #15
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	TConnor_Demonic Jun 11 2014, 01:57 AM I don't remember that being implied. I remember it being implied that because Goku was so angry and most likely had adrenaline going through his body alongside his stupidity he just didn't feel it. Adrenaline only takes you so far besides goku went back to his base and showed no signs of hurting so his wounds were healed



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