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| I want Akira Toriyama to revamp atleast 4 DBZ films (made by Toei Animations) to fit in the series.; The World's Strongest, Super 13, Return of Cooler, and Fusion Reborn | |
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| Rokai | Jun 9 2014, 06:27 PM Post #1 |
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I would like Akira to really revamp these movies The World's Strongest, Super 13, Return of Cooler and Fusion Reborn to fit in the series without any plot holes and continuity errors.The reason why I want him to do it is because I want him to fix these movies continuity errors, drawings/art styles, the settings and the story. Like for example The World's Strongest film takes place during the Trunks saga while the Z Warriors are training to prepare for the androids according to dragonball wikia it says that "The events of this movie clearly happen after the Vegeta Saga, as Gohan has already trained with Piccolo (he knows him and wears his clothes) and Goku has already trained with King Kai (he wears his emblem on the back of his clothes, and uses both the Kaio-ken and Spirit Bomb). Gohan has a flashback that shows when Piccolo died saving his life from Nappa's Bomber DX. However, Piccolo is alive in the movie, which does not happen until the Frieza Saga, and Goku is back on Earth, which does not happen until the Trunks Saga. Therefore, the movie most likely takes place early in the three years the Z Fighters are training to prepare for the Androids (right after the events of the episode "Goku's Special Technique")." Now the problem with this movie is that the way the characters are drawn the way Goku, Gohan and Piccolo are shown in this film they appear to look slightly like from the Saiyan saga but just a little older which confuses people into thinking that this movie happens during the Saiyan saga but before the Frieeza saga which it doesn't. What I would like Akira to do is to redraw the characters make them look like themselves from the Trunks saga, change the story make it better like have Gohan continue on training with Piccolo in the arctic which is where the episode "Goku's Special Technique" ended at while that's happening Goku is off somewhere else training, Gohan finished training and is all wore out from sparing with Piccolo he can then go on a brake to relax his muscles then in the film they can show the other various Z Fighters training for the androids. Okay now in Super 13 the problem with this movie is the thing as my other reasons I had with the World's Strongest , it's Gohan's appearance the way he looks in this movie he looks all wrong the artist drew his appearance from the Android saga which caused alot of confusion with the fans this movie looks like it's suppose to take place during the Android saga because the way Gohan is drawn and he can't turn into a SSj but the information from dragonball wilkia states that the events of this film is during the Cell saga it says Super Android 13! takes place after Android 17 and Android 18 were activated and killed Dr. Gero, and after Goku fully recovered from the Heart Virus.The only free period between the activation of those Androids and Goku's death would be the wait before the Cell Games. However, Gohan does not appear to have trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber yet as he is still shorter than Krillin and his hair is still a mullet; he also does not show his ability to go Super Saiyan. Furthermore, Goku and Gohan are not shown as Full-Power Super Saiyans, and Future Trunks and Vegeta do not power up to the Ascended Super Saiyan level. What Akira Toriyama should do with this is draw Gohan in his proper appearance, he should have his SSj form and have him team up with Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks to fight against the androids. My next problem is Return of Cooler just like my last reasons for what I said about Super 13 and The World's Strongest it's the same problem the drawings are wrong again Gohan is still drawn in the image of his appearance from the Android saga which still causes confusions and continuity errors with the movie this film shows that the events of this film happen during the await for the Cell Games because Dende is the new guardian of the earth according to dragonball wikia it says that The events of this movie must be set between the episodes "A New Guardian" and "The Games Begin" of Dragon Ball Z, during the wait for the start of the Cell Games. Additional proof is found in Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2, where the Z Fighters go to New Namek and confront Meta-Cooler right before the Cell Games. But the problem is, is that Gohan still appears to look like his younger self in the Garlic Jr and the Android saga. Now what Akira Toriyama could do is fix Gohan's appearance make him look like himself after he left the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, change the story like while Goku and Vegeta are at their SSj levels fighting copies of Cooler Gohan is at SSj helping his friends fight against drones and then after he's finished then he can jump in and help Goku and Vegeta battle against the armies of Coolers, also Trunks should be in there to help out too, he could of left at the same time with Vegeta on the space ship going to New Namek it'll show how he's loyal to his father and his friends and it will explain how Vegeta grew to love and care for his son. And finally Fusion Reborn my reasons to why I want this movie to be revamp is because that this movie is pretty tricky for most people we have trouble figuring out where the movie takes place some say it takes place in an alternate timeline where Gotenks/ Mystic Gohan defeated Super Buu and a few others say that it happens during the Majin Buu saga but I believe it takes place after the Buu saga and here's my thoughts 1. Vegeta already knew about Goku's SSj3 form because of the comment that Goku said to him he said " You saw what he did to me back there"( he said that after Janimba knocked him out of SSj3 and when Vegeta came in and saved his life) which tells us that Vegeta showed up during when SSj3 Goku was battling Janimba, so he already knew about Goku's SSj3 powers he was just watching from a distance just like he always does like the fights against Android 19, Meta Cooler and Kid Buu Vegeta always watches Goku fight up until when things get out of hand then he'll jump in to help out. 2. Vegeta already knows about fusion he know it means two bodies combines together (since Goku already explain that to him in their fight against Super Buu) here's the quotes Goku: Yes if we work together there's still a chance. Vegeta: What? Come on. He picked us apart, Goku: Yeah separately, Vegeta: Huh separately? "Surely you're not suggesting?" Goku: It's the only way. We have to do fusion Vegeta. Vegeta: You know better. Fusion. I'll never joins bodies with you clown. 3 Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Videl, Chichi, Hercul and the rest of the Z Fighters and earthlings are alive on earth even though some of them aren't seen in the movie 4. Gotenks uses Super Ghost Kamikaze technique in the movie against the army which he never used in the Majin Buu saga until he started training in the time chamber where he learns new skills and techniques all of this happens in the Fusion saga when he was fighting Super Buu. Now what I think about how Akria Toriyama could make this film easily fit with the series like have Vegeta on earth training in his gravitational room, Goku up in Otherworld battling various fighters in the tournament, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks are on earth with their friends and family at Bulma's cookout in Capsule Corp enjoying the peaceful times on earth, then when something happens in Otherwrold Goku and Pikkon rushes off to find out what it is while on earth everything is still normal, Goku and Pikkon finds a mysterious creature who some how altered the reality from the living world to the spirit world and then all hell breaks loose with all the evil villains that have been killed from past events returns to reek havoc on earth whicg causes the Z Fighters reassemble together to fight against the r of former dead villains, while that's happening, Goku and Pikkon in Otherworld are fighting Janimba, and meanwhile back on earth Fortuneteller Baba comes to Vegeta's aid and transport him in Otherworld to help out Goku and Pikkon with their battle with Janimba the fight gets sever and tedious Goku and Vegeta comes up with a plan to defeat Janimba, since all of their other skills aren't working against the mystical creature they decide to do fusion for a last resort and in the end they were successful both the fused warriors and Z Fighters have brought peace back to living and spirit world. Edited by Rokai, Jun 16 2014, 12:00 PM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jun 9 2014, 06:32 PM Post #2 |
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I wish I could read this one day in my lifetime. But I respect your opinion and I do agree with a lot of stuff. |
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| Rokai | Jun 9 2014, 06:33 PM Post #3 |
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Oh and if anyone can't see the rest of the title just hghlight it
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 9 2014, 09:09 PM Post #4 |
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Multiple timelines. BAM! They now fit in canon with no contradictions .
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| + Yusuke | Jun 9 2014, 09:11 PM Post #5 |
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What Prince said, Toriyama treats the DBZ Movies as side-stories to his Manga. I highly doubt they'd remake those movies though. I don't see why Toei would do that. |
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| TheGmGoken | Jun 10 2014, 12:59 AM Post #6 |
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Now what if they're plot holes in that time within another timeline in another timeline within another timeline in another Timeline |
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| lazerbem | Jun 10 2014, 01:15 AM Post #7 |
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Stopped reading around the point you cited DB Wiki, it's horrible |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 10 2014, 02:17 AM Post #8 |
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There was a short period of time of about two days between Goku's return from Heart Virus Land and going into the RoSaT, which is when Movie 7 could've taken place. |
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| Rokai | Jun 16 2014, 12:17 PM Post #9 |
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Those are my reasons why I think those movies can fit in a canon way without any plot holes and errors they just have to fix the drawings, the story and show some diversity with the Z Fighters they need to be changed to have continuity to fit within the series. |
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Jun 16 2014, 04:41 PM Post #10 |
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I can see him redoing like the Dead Zone movie, Cooler, Super 13; and Bojack, maybe. |
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| Rokai | Jun 17 2014, 04:19 PM Post #11 |
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I agree with you but I don't think the Deadzone, and Bojack doesn't need to be redone because they can easily fit in the series like the Deadzone film takes place right after the ending of Dragonball and before DragonBall Z this movie was like a bridge between the two series and Bojack Unbound the settings of this film happens after the Cell Games saga since Bulma mentions that Trunks came back from the past and told everyone that he defeated the androids in his timeline. |
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