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23rd TB Humans > King Piccolo?
Topic Started: Jun 8 2014, 04:26 PM (1,674 Views)
+ Yusuke Jun 8 2014, 04:26 PM Post #1
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 I've seen people argue this a lot on this forum. Is their any evidence showing that Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien managed to surpass Young King Piccolo by the 23rd TB?
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Topographic Oceans Jun 8 2014, 04:28 PM Post #2
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 Not sure about the other characters, but Tenshinhan was confident to defeat Goku, and he was there during his fight against Piccolo Daimao.
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Rogafufuken Jun 8 2014, 04:28 PM Post #3
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 Well Tien was about as strong as Weieghted Goku during the tournament, so he's stronger than King Piccolo. And Krillin had a decent fight against Piccolo Jr., and he admitted that Krillin was good. I'm not sure about Yamcha though.
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+ Pelador Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM Post #4
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 Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.


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+ Emmeth Jun 8 2014, 06:08 PM Post #5
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 I have only Tenshinhan above. If you're curious to how my list looks:

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StrawHatCrew Jun 8 2014, 07:02 PM Post #6
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 Krillin surprised Piccolo (not full-power but still) and Piccolo after the fight said taking over the world wouldn't be as easy as he thought.

Kami complimented Yamcha.
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Alex D. Boss Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM Post #7
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Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
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+ Pyrus Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM Post #8
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Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?
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Alex D. Boss Jun 8 2014, 09:58 PM Post #9
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Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?

Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed.
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+ Clearin Jun 8 2014, 10:02 PM Post #10
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Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?

Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed.
That was in the 22nd Budokai. Since the Gap changes by the start of Z I don't see a problem with people making the gap start here.

Anyway I think only Tien has strong evidence for being stronger than Piccolo, the others could go either way imo.
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* Ketchup Revenge Jun 8 2014, 10:20 PM Post #11
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 As most people have already said, I'm fairly confident that Tenshinhan was stronger than King Piccolo by that time.
I'd go as far as to put him around Popo, when we first see him in Kami's Palace.

As for Yamcha and Krillin, I'd both have them around King Piccolo.
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Alex D. Boss Jun 8 2014, 10:21 PM Post #12
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Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?

Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed.
That was in the 22nd Budokai. Since the Gap changes by the start of Z I don't see a problem with people making the gap start here.

Anyway I think only Tien has strong evidence for being stronger than Piccolo, the others could go either way imo.

Yeah, but the gap changed after BoZ, I don't see a reason to change the gap between Krillin and Yamcha at 23nd Budokai.
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+ Clearin Jun 8 2014, 10:23 PM Post #13
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Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM
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Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM
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Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM
Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?

Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed.
That was in the 22nd Budokai. Since the Gap changes by the start of Z I don't see a problem with people making the gap start here.

Anyway I think only Tien has strong evidence for being stronger than Piccolo, the others could go either way imo.

Yeah, but the gap changed after BoZ, I don't see a reason to change the gap between Krillin and Yamcha at 23nd Budokai.
It changed before BoZ, right after Raditz died and Bulma read their powerlevels Krillin was 206 and Yamcha was 177.
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Alex D. Boss Jun 8 2014, 10:44 PM Post #14
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Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM
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Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM
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Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM
Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it.

If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin.
You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes?

Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed.
That was in the 22nd Budokai. Since the Gap changes by the start of Z I don't see a problem with people making the gap start here.

Anyway I think only Tien has strong evidence for being stronger than Piccolo, the others could go either way imo.

Yeah, but the gap changed after BoZ, I don't see a reason to change the gap between Krillin and Yamcha at 23nd Budokai.
It changed before BoZ, right after Raditz died and Bulma read their powerlevels Krillin was 206 and Yamcha was 177.

Yeah I meant around that.
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+ Yusuke Jun 8 2014, 11:22 PM Post #15
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 22nd Yamcha > 22nd Krillin? Never seen that before.

Anyways, I have...

King Piccolo (Young): 240
Yamcha: 250
Krillin: 260
Tien: 300

I guess that means all the Humans got weaker in the 5 year gap.
Edited by Yusuke, Jun 8 2014, 11:23 PM.
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